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Old 06-18-2007, 03:35 AM
ndgrinder59 ndgrinder59 is offline
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Default stars 200/400 hand I observered????

PokerStars Game #10492527805: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/06/18 - 03:26:54 (ET)
Table 'Ludovica III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: OMFGaskdghak ($8692 in chips)
Seat 4: becked ($24119 in chips)
Seat 6: PerpCzech ($10479 in chips)
PerpCzech: posts small blind $100
OMFGaskdghak: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
becked: folds
PerpCzech: raises $200 to $400
OMFGaskdghak: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [7c 2c 6d]
PerpCzech: bets $200
OMFGaskdghak: calls $200
*** TURN *** [7c 2c 6d] [Ks]
PerpCzech: bets $400
OMFGaskdghak: raises $400 to $800
PerpCzech: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [7c 2c 6d Ks] [Kd]
PerpCzech: bets $400
OMFGaskdghak: raises $400 to $800
PerpCzech: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMFGaskdghak: shows [Jd 7s] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
PerpCzech: mucks hand
OMFGaskdghak collected $4398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4400 | Rake $2
Board [7c 2c 6d Ks Kd]
Seat 3: OMFGaskdghak (big blind) showed [Jd 7s] and won ($4398) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 4: becked (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PerpCzech (small blind) mucked


How can OMFG cap flop raise turn and raise river with this hand, is this STANDARD? or is this just spewing....seems like it would be spewing against most opponents....and what is PerpCzech calling with...AQ, 55, 44, and 33.....or is this just a case of the bet fold play but he couldn't bring himself to lay down the hand.....I don't understand this hand at all so if any of you high stakes LHE players could explain this to me that would be great!!!
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

OMFG standard!

Also huh?:

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How can OMFG cap flop raise turn and raise river

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Old 06-18-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

I knew a girl who never used comas or ended a sentence with a period, and just did that stupid ............thing all over the place.

She's not dead.

Yet.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

Seems pretty standard against certain opponents. The turn raise is for a free showdown. When the 2nd king rivers, they both know it's less likely anyone has a king. Hence, the bet, raise, and payoff (probably with a worse 7, or ace-high)
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:52 AM
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Seems pretty standard against certain opponents. The turn raise is for a free showdown. When the 2nd king rivers, they both know it's less likely anyone has a king. Hence, the bet, raise, and payoff (probably with a worse 7, or ace-high)

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QFT

I honestly feel that this hand is standard at something like 3-6 online. BB defends blind, most good players will,

Good flop for J7 he calls (either because opp is bad and figures he is ahead of opp range and wants to raise the expensive street for value, or because he thinks he is ahead and wants to call down)

Raises turn (bluff on the K less likely) mostly because he thinks his pair of 7s are good, Opp call indicates no K. River pairs K so 7s are likely good here most times.

Opp thinks he is valuebetting 10-7 or worse, hero raises for value opp calls and small pair is no good.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

"The turn raise is for a free showdown. "

no
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

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"The turn raise is for value "

yes

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Old 06-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: stars 200/400 hand I observered????

If he wanted a cheap or free showdown, he raises the flop. Checks the turn and calls the river.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:28 AM
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I honestly feel that this hand is standard at something like 3-6 online.

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Mostly true. However, you almost certainly won't see a b/c on the river with a hand that can't beat J7 at a 3-6 game.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:22 PM
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I honestly feel that this hand is standard at something like 3-6 online.

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Mostly true. However, you almost certainly won't see a b/c on the river with a hand that can't beat J7 at a 3-6 game.

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Sixes will call, AQ might
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