when do i know my set is beat?

hallo! · #1 07-29-2007, 05:10 PM

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($8.29)
Hero ($25.34)
BB ($5.15)
UTG ($13.30)
MP ($20.45)
CO ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $0.2, 1 fold, CO calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.6, CO folds, Hero calls $1.60, BB folds.

Turn: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.8, Hero raises to $1.55, UTG raises to $2.4, Hero raises to $23.49 (All-In), UTG calls $8.30 (All-In).

River: ($38.19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $38.19

so this guy has been damn lucky all the time and i thought i finally have an opportunity to bust him...

any thoughts? I thought i might have been too aggressiv? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

sightless · #2 07-29-2007, 05:12 PM

you dont

set = all in

raise flop
raise turn bigger

danny8 · #3 07-29-2007, 05:14 PM

never...

leading flop or c/r'ing are ok, but since its so dry and he overbet i dont mind a c/c - let him continue his bluff.

on the turn your c/r needs to be much bigger, raise his small bet to ~$4, if he shoves snap call. if calls, shove any river

ICMoney · #4 07-29-2007, 05:19 PM

I would gladly play for stacks here.

He min raises and then bets 2x pot on flop? Either a huge hand or a mad QQ or some random hand. I like a call.

Turn: Now there is a bad door FD and a gutter hit. I'm not paying any attention to these. Check raise to around $5 and try to get the rest in on the turn/river.

Romanis · #5 07-29-2007, 05:26 PM

You weren't aggressive enough, don't slowplay in uNL!
Preflop call is fine. Bet the flop, at least potsize, though a checkraise is fine also if he's aggressive enough. After you checked and he bets twice the pot I'd raise! He seems to want the money in the pot, so raise about 5-6$ and shove every turn/other bet. You're hand is good on the flop at least 90% of the time.
The smallish bet on the turn makes me believe he picked up a draw, so don't mincheckraise (Don't check to begin with, bet the pot or more!). His 4-bet makes me believe he might actually have TQ, KK, 99 or JJ so now I might consider calling and getting a cheap showdown + cursing myself for the slowplay.

ICMoney · #6 07-29-2007, 05:28 PM

I forgot to add: Fist pump as you shove AI.

bored · #7 07-29-2007, 05:32 PM

At showdown.

vixticator · #8 07-29-2007, 05:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
At showdown.

[/ QUOTE ]Heh.

hallo! · #9 07-29-2007, 05:54 PM

thx so long guys.

youre probably all right with my too small bet on the turn, but i was hoping for him to put all the money in.

Well it turned out he had JJ and beat me on that one.

but the possibilty to be beaten by a higher set is fairly low, so i would always do that again

thx..

Khaos4k · #10 07-29-2007, 07:33 PM

When the board looks like this

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($26.05)
UTG ($48.80)
MP ($24)
Button ($21.60)
SB ($8.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, MP folds, Button calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($5.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.75, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5.35