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Old 04-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Mozart Mozart is offline
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Default 22 against a callingstation

Villian stats are 77/0.47/0.18 wtsd 53 over 250 hands.

He calls with almost everything to the river.

I´m probably ahead on the turn so i bet, and i bet the river because i can safely fold if he raise.

Standard play?


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

whyyyyyyyyyyyyy would you raise pf
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

To isolate my donk. BB was a very tight player V$IP 15 over 60 Hands.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

isolating with 22 sucks esp vs a calling station because you never know where you stand except you flop a set

postflop looks good to me btw
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

you are oh so slightly ahead of this guy and OOP pf is really bad
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

The preflop raise is very bad, and postflop shows you exactly why.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:43 AM
FatedEquity FatedEquity is offline
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

By raising, you are isolating yourself OOP with a marginal hand that has little resilience postflop.
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:26 AM
Innocentius Innocentius is offline
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

His range is basically any two cards, which amounts to either two overs to your measly duces or a higher pair (like the crushing 33). I don't even think you have the best of it if all 5 cards come out. Since it is likely that he will call you down with almost anything, I don't understand why you would like to isolate him. Also, the BB calling isn't that unlikely, in which case you have just payed 1.5 sb for the pleasure of playing out of position agains (in the best case) 3-4 overcards. If one of them has a pair your crushed.

Complete and hope for a set.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

ok, maybe the play was too aggro. But i´m a small favorit to win the hand and it is dead money in the pot.
How high are your minimum requirements to isolate this 70% guy?

Say, you are OTB with 22 and the same guy is the BB. Do you fold? He will call 100% of the time?
Ok, now i have position but i think it is useless against this guy, because he will call anyway.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:59 AM
TheWunderkind TheWunderkind is offline
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Default Re: 22 against a callingstation

its not said that youre favourite sometime she has 33 &amp; 66 or whatever and all depends on postflop, preflop value doesnt really matter vs this guys imho since he will call you down with any pair and youre almost forced to fire 2 barrels because he will call anyway so this hand becomes more like a lottery postflop and the BB is coming in for the ride now and then. I would isolate 55+ maybe 44+ otB.

Vs this guy i dont mind folding 22 otB with him in the BB

btw pos is not useless since you can take a freeshowdown, oop you have always a hard River decision if he bets into you.

all in all youre forced to make tough postflop decisiions everytime you do this and that forces you to make mistakes your image is going bad and it can put you on tilt
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