5/10 KK hand against Facial_Hair

[Azalin]

Opponent is one of you i guess Its the third time in a row that i raised his preflop raise so..
Also i dont play much limit so forgive me if this is an easy one.
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SB ($1909)
BB ($995)
UTG ($1816)
MP ($1509)
Hero ($1113)
Button ($1499)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $135</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $100.

Flop: ($285) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, MP calls $1374 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1859

[TheWorstPlayer]

if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

[Azalin]

How much would you reraise here? What hands do you put him on?

[TheWorstPlayer]

I would re-raise to 175 or so. And obviously he will have a wide range to open in MP. He will have a narrower range to call a re-raise with, though, mostly consisting of pocket pairs.

[Triumph36]

Re-raising to 175 is nuts. If FH makes this play with 55 - more power to him. How hard is it for Hero to have himself a set here? Results-oriented thinking at its best. His raise is pot-sized - what is wrong with a PSRR? So FH calls with a pocket pair OOP - great, we want him to call with that.

Nice fold - bet less on flop.

[BigUpS]

You're odds are about 1:2 and with that board, I can see him doing it with open or flush draw or one pair + draw kinda hand, especially when you've been reraising him PF. I think it's a close one.

FH is a good solid guy. Did he change his sn from before? Haven't seen him around much.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Re-raising to 175 is nuts.

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This is commonly thought but wrong.

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Results-oriented thinking at its best.

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No.

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His raise is pot-sized - what is wrong with a PSRR?

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The implied odds that it gives. What is good about a PSRR?

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So FH calls with a pocket pair OOP - great, we want him to call with that.

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No, we don't since a call there with 55 is +EV for set value alone. FTOP says that we don't want out opponents to make +EV plays.

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Nice fold - bet less on flop.

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What is the advantage of betting the flop?

[Prevaricator]

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if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is).

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wrong. i dont feel like explaining why atm

[king_of_drafts]

Reraising to $175 seems like a fantastic way to never get action with kings. I don't think I would ever check the flop here.

I think this was played fine.

[donkey]

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if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

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TWP, dont play like such a girl. raising to 175 is scared poker.

arguing that the raise is too smal because calling 135 with 55 is +ev is retarded too. so if we're playing with 1 million behind, i have to raise from $35 to $150,000 with big pairs? your logic is always so bad it hurts.