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Old 09-16-2007, 04:06 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default $16 - QQ on bubble

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t6169)
Button (t3997)
Hero (t2620)
BB (t714)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t3972 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ?</font>

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Button is a reg with ~6% ROI.
BB will almost always fold if I call.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

Close call w/ QQ, if you think BU is pushing reasonable loose. If BU is tight (pushing much less than 35% here), this may be a fold. (ICM Calculator Results)
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

this is actually a question? i insta call this every single time.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:04 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

I don't think a mediocre reg is pushing as often as he should here.

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this is actually a question?

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I'm no expert but that looks like a statement with a question mark attached.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

88 would be different lol
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

insta-snap call you hold teh third best hand...stop those threads even if he comes up with KK and AA this is just unlucky..
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

this is NO instacall.
i don't have an icm programm on this computer, but i expect this to be pretty close.
shortie is so short that it would be a desaster, if villain's holding includes an ace or a king.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

hum and button can't really push ATC here, since BB has to call everytime we fold, which makes it even harder.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

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this is actually a question? i insta call this every single time.

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According to ICM it is a call against a 40% pushing range, but a fold against a 30% pushing range. Since BB is forced to call if we fold BTN should not be pushing too wide.

I think most people dont push wide enough for this call to be +EV, but it is close enough that I wouldn´t blame anyone for calling either.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 - QQ on bubble

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this is NO instacall.
i don't have an icm programm on this computer, but i expect this to be pretty close.
shortie is so short that it would be a desaster, if villain's holding includes an ace or a king.

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So if he would show us he had K2 off, we'd fold the queens?
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