$25 PLO thought process

Grasshopp3r · #1 11-05-2007, 11:56 PM

I want to walk through my thought process as I did not feel too good with the way this hand played.

The table was loose and wild aggro. I called with a coordinated hand and 6 saw the flop. I bet top 2 with the low str8, though the bet was half the pot so that I could get away from the hand if I get popped.

The turn was my low str8 card, but the double suits scared me, so I lead with a pot sized bet. When I was reraised, I thought that I was freerolled. I reraised, thinking that his minraise was weak. I did not want the call. Was that the right line with the nuts facing big redraws?

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25 (pot was $0.35), MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.25 (pot was $0.6), MP3 calls $0.25 (pot was $0.85), CO folds, Button calls $0.25 (pot was $1.1), SB calls $0.15 (pot was $1.35), BB checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75 (pot was $2.25), Button folds, SB calls $0.75 (pot was $3), BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75 (pot was $3.75).

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.5, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.3, MP3 folds, SB raises all-in $4.45, UTG+1 raises to $8.75, Hero raises all-in $28.2, UTG+1 calls $19.45 (pot was $45.9).

River: : ($65.35, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $17.85, Sidepot 1: $47.5)

Results:
Final pot: $65.35

holdemsucks · #2 11-06-2007, 12:05 AM

I may have considered raising pre-flop...
I may have done a full pot-bet on the flop...
I would have almost certainly folded to SB's re-raise/all-in as you are probably facing people with flush draws with no defensive cards.

chucky · #3 11-06-2007, 12:26 AM

Raise preflop. Pot the flop. You could call mini-raise on turn. Getting it allin is not a bad thing either.

iggymcfly · #4 11-06-2007, 12:28 AM

I don't like the 1/2 pot bet on the flop. You want to hammer this. You've got a strong hand and you want to make a real bet here. The turn's super-standard though. You've got the nuts with a 4-out freeroll and you're rarely going to be in bad shape.

Grasshopp3r · #5 11-06-2007, 01:00 AM

The only problem with shoving the turn is that I am shoving into 2 flush redraws, plus the higher str8. I think that is 29 outs on the turn.

chucky · #6 11-06-2007, 01:25 AM

The problem with not pushing is that your opponent will be able to bluff you on all those scare cards.

garcia1000 · #7 11-06-2007, 02:36 AM

Preflop is a raise. This is a clear raise, not a marginal situation. QJT9ds is one of the biggest hands.

Flop is a pot bet. If you had raised preflop, you would be committed to this hand, and it's not bad. As played, pot.

Turn is a pot bet. If you had raised preflop, you would already be all-in on the flop. If you didn't raise preflop but had potted flop, you would be shallow enough to comfortably call a raise all-in.

Instead, you have a crappy situation caused by insufficient betting on previous rounds. However, you have to get it all-in.

Grasshopp3r · #8 11-08-2007, 11:33 PM

The queen hit on the river, so I scooped it. The villians both had the str8 and the flushes covered.