hit two pair turn check raise super DEEP

[flawless_victory]

'man does limon own this thread. Best analysis I've seen in a while on 2+2.'

'i think min c/ring and folding to a 3bet is bad this deep, but possibly ok at 100bb or so.'

would some1 mind telling me if these posts are jokes or serious? this thread is pretty confusing...

[flipdeadshot22]

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you have to call 4k to win 16k, which almost makes this a coinflip.

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lol

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you dont seem to understand the concept of a coinflip

if we have 13 clean outs, we are 29.5% to win on the river.
so, if the pot is 11k, and we have to call 3k to win 14k. 3k is 21.4% of 14k. this means if the villian has A4 or 44, we have an expected +EV of 8% of 14k, or 1.12k.

if villian has AA, we are 20.5% to win on the river. using the same values from the previous scenario, we have a -EV of .9% of 14k, or -126.

so, lets assume villian has AA, 99, or A9, 85% of the time, and villian has 44, A4 10% of the time, and all other hands 5% of the time.

-126(.85) + 1120(.1) = -107 + 112 = +5

(note that we are disregarding the anomoly hands in this example as those hands were not relevent to the discussion.)

so, like <font color="black"> </font> I SAID <font color="black"> </font> , we are basically coin flipping.

do you understand now?

really, there are enough moronic clods that post in these forums, please do us a favor and do not become one of them.

thank you.

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seems that everyone's perception is that there is a positive correlation between postcount and poker advice-giving ability

[jfish]

i meant to edit my post, but i couldnt. obv not folding to a shove if you do a min c/r at 100bb.

[limon]

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'man does limon own this thread. Best analysis I've seen in a while on 2+2.'

'i think min c/ring and folding to a 3bet is bad this deep, but possibly ok at 100bb or so.'

would some1 mind telling me if these posts are jokes or serious? this thread is pretty confusing...

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you should know by now im never joking and im always confusing