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#32
11-08-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
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[ QUOTE ] There was another thread about reshef before by pokerbob... [/ QUOTE ] PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: PokerBob is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, MP calls. Turn: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, PokerBob calls. River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, PokerBob calls. Final Pot: 12.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP has 9c 8c (flush, king high). PokerBob has As Ad (one pair, aces). Outcome: MP wins 12.75 BB. </font> this line is pretty common and simply atrocious. if i have a hand that i can bet the turn with, it is one i am never folding ever in a million years. instead of merely calling the turn and then donking a river club or check/raising one of the 3 non-club 8s, this retard commits himself to barrelling off 3 bets with what the vast majority of the time is gonna be 9-high. this play loses money. [/ QUOTE ] gotta say I like how he played this. Huge draw, this is probably the best way to maximize folding equity, and I think there are hands people will bet the turn with that will fold on the turn or on the river. 
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#33
11-08-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There was another thread about reshef before by pokerbob... [/ QUOTE ] PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: PokerBob is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, MP calls. Turn: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, PokerBob calls. River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, PokerBob calls. Final Pot: 12.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP has 9c 8c (flush, king high). PokerBob has As Ad (one pair, aces). Outcome: MP wins 12.75 BB. </font> this line is pretty common and simply atrocious. if i have a hand that i can bet the turn with, it is one i am never folding ever in a million years. instead of merely calling the turn and then donking a river club or check/raising one of the 3 non-club 8s, this retard commits himself to barrelling off 3 bets with what the vast majority of the time is gonna be 9-high. this play loses money. [/ QUOTE ] gotta say I like how he played this. Huge draw, this is probably the best way to maximize folding equity, and I think there are hands people will bet the turn with that will fold on the turn or on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I bet/3bet the flop. If I have a hand that can bet this turn, it is one that is showing down 100% of the time. There is 0 folding equity here. His hand is either 55, 66 or nothing. If this line makes money, then online lhe is alive and well, cuz this play sucks.
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#34
11-08-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
limit holdem is a farce etc
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#37
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
you know in this particular 98s hand it doesn't matter how you spew, as long as you do spew.
I happen to think against a lot of online lags his line is the best. donk - 3 bet flop reeks of draw to me. I guess if you are balancing by donk 3 betting sets as well in this spot its ok. based on the other hands from this guy he does look bad though.
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#38
11-08-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
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[ QUOTE ] you would donk-3 bet the flop? [/ QUOTE ] no. what gives you that impression? [/ QUOTE ] Oh i see, i thought you were saying "[if I were him] I bet 3b the flop."
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#39
11-08-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
are you reading the action right on pokerbob's hand, geormiet?
reshef c/r/c the flop, and c/r the turn...there is no donk/3b
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