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Old 09-27-2007, 03:43 PM
Rkoo Rkoo is offline
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Default NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

Is this ever call against unknown? BTN is a donkey shortstacker and CO is basically unknown. I've been about 10 hands at the table and he has limp-call most of the hands preflop.

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No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $246.35
BB: $173.20
Hero (UTG): $203.00
CO: $285.75
BTN: $79.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($24) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, CO calls $18.00, BTN calls $18.00

Turn: ($78) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $60.00</font>, CO calls $60.00, BTN folds

River: ($198) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $70.00</font>, Hero???
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:14 PM
chiTown22 chiTown22 is offline
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

This spot is pretty "meh" in my opinion. I don't think a call or a fold here is a huge mistatke. Against a guy who has been doing a lot of limp/calling I would most likely make this call, b/c I would read excessive limp/calling preflop as a sign of a weak player. A weak player could show up here with almost anything, worse Q, Busted draw, maybe even second pair.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:28 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

Call river it could be 89,KJ,J9. Most likely QT but oh well.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

You're getting really good money on it, so lacking a strong read or good stats I say take your almost 4:1
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

instacall

a lot of times busted draw.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

I would c/c the turn after getting both callers on flop then c/f river. Vs an unkown what is he betting on the river? looks like a slowplayed set. He also could of had KJcc or J9cc and continued on the turn b/c of the flush draw. Here i dont think your Q is good. didnt even see the bet size. Yea this so looks like a value bet, your Q is def no good here.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

My standard line with TPTK is to c/c the turn then re-eval on the river. Here I rarely call an unknown after firing twice. If he wants to spew you find out soon enough.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:15 PM
chiTown22 chiTown22 is offline
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

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My standard line with TPTK is to c/c the turn then re-eval on the river. Here I rarely call an unknown after firing twice. If he wants to spew you find out soon enough.

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Why do you c/c the turn? Seems to me you would regularly be leaving value on the table.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

I think a call here, following your river check, is not just fine, but probably good against an unknown. I like checking for value here, and also to control the pot in case you're behind (although it's important to mix it up with value bets, too). I think that you're ahead of marginal hands and draws fairly often. I would expect a bigger hand to normally raise you at some point before the river (not to say you won't get slowplayed sometimes, too).
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: NL200(6max)River decision with TPGK

Close one, but I think I'd call. If he flopped a straight/ 2pair he probably would have raised already and it's unlikely the four helped him.
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