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Old 10-13-2007, 03:46 AM
SilentNoise SilentNoise is offline
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Default offtopic: staking arrangement and possible chipdumping.

it was a 141 hand session at 100nl

Stakee was down 194$ to the guy. Stakee lost 104$ to him in pots that were showdown, and 90$ in pots that weren't showdown.

In all the hands played, stakee only won 4 hands that were above 10big blinds..one of which was a backdoor flush and he was raising to 3x preflop. and he ran 37/29 for the 140 hands. its hard to believe that when hes on the button 70times ...he cant raise preflop and successfuly take it down with a cbet more than 2 times.

Here are some hands from the session which look suspcious:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $100.70
BB: $176.60

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, BB calls $9

River: ($32) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $32 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $31.50 (+$15.50 NET)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$16 NET)

here are some that dont look suspicious:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $101.20
SB: $267.60

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $10

Flop: ($28) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, SB folds

Results: $28 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and WON $27.50 (+$13.50 NET)


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $116.70
BB: $160.10

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BB calls $18

River: ($62) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $62 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero mucked 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$31 NET)
BB showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Nines) and WON $61.50 (+$30.50 NET)


Its obviously hard to tell. but this player isn't totally retarded. over 130 HU games according to sharkscope...hes got a 550% ROI. Hes also a marginal winner in mtts according to OPR over 700 mtts or so.


what do you think? is the fact that he has won so few pots with a cbet a little to suspicious? i noticed this after a joint so i very well could have been paranoid.

would appreciate what you think.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:51 AM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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Default Re: offtopic: staking arrangement and possible chipdumping.

send me all the HHs and i'll check. also dont stake SnG HU players for cash HU.
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: offtopic: staking arrangement and possible chipdumping.

how are those hands suspicious at all ?
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:55 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: offtopic: staking arrangement and possible chipdumping.

lol at your example hands
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:12 AM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: offtopic: staking arrangement and possible chipdumping.

lay off the kgb imo

i mean i'm not saying it can't be true, but looking at your post doesn't make me lean toward it being true
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