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11-13-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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[ QUOTE ] Too bad your biblical points are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Cogent as always! Ah don't need me no reasons.. [/ QUOTE ] OP has taken this entire passage out of context. Yukon just stated a bunch of verses. Both are wrong. Salvation has nothing to do with works. Salvation can only come through the shed blood of Jesus on the cross. It is a free gift that you can not earn thru "works", only thru belief. 
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11-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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Salvation has nothing to do with works. Salvation can only come through the shed blood of Jesus on the cross. It is a free gift that you can not earn thru "works", only thru belief. [/ QUOTE ] You are wrong.
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11-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Too bad your biblical points are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Cogent as always! Ah don't need me no reasons.. [/ QUOTE ] OP has taken this entire passage out of context. Yukon just stated a bunch of verses. Both are wrong. Salvation has nothing to do with works. Salvation can only come through the shed blood of Jesus on the cross. It is a free gift that you can not earn thru "works", only thru belief. [/ QUOTE ] Again, cogent as always.
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11-13-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Too bad your biblical points are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Cogent as always! Ah don't need me no reasons.. [/ QUOTE ] OP has taken this entire passage out of context. Yukon just stated a bunch of verses. Both are wrong. Salvation has nothing to do with works. Salvation can only come through the shed blood of Jesus on the cross. It is a free gift that you can not earn thru "works", only thru belief. [/ QUOTE ] Its funny how I can spend hours arguing what I think are the bad parts of Christianity, only to have Christians claim that I'm misinterpreting or taking out of context or I just don't understand. Then someone comes along and clearly describes exactly what he thinks one of the GOOD parts of Christianity, and its probably the best possible argument for the evil of Christianity that I could ever come up with. You think that scapegoating is moral and good. I think its evil and wrong and obviously immoral. That your entire religion is based on it is atrocious, morally. And you guys cheer it and celebrate it and wear mementos. Amazing.
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11-13-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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Anyone who would condemn someone to "eternal" punishment for any reason is evil. [/ QUOTE ] How about anyone who would accept the torture and murder of an innocent, no matter how willing, in order to pay for MY sins?
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11-13-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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[ QUOTE ] Anyone who would condemn someone to "eternal" punishment for any reason is evil. [/ QUOTE ] How about anyone who would accept the torture and murder of an innocent, no matter how willing, in order to pay for MY sins? [/ QUOTE ] Gee, we've never heard these comments before have we?
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11-13-2007, 06:57 PM
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Re: Why I believe if Jesus is the son of God I won\'t go to hell
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Anyone who would condemn someone to "eternal" punishment for any reason is evil. [/ QUOTE ] How about anyone who would accept the torture and murder of an innocent, no matter how willing, in order to pay for MY sins? [/ QUOTE ] Gee, we've never heard these comments before have we? [/ QUOTE ] Is that supposed to be some kind of response? I dont get it. Scapegoating is immoral and wrong. You guys celebrate it. That is funny to me. I could say that killing millions and stoning witches and flooding the Earth is wrong, but you might argue "context" or "non-literal" or some other nonsense, so I'll just settle with your own argument, that Jesus is the scapegoat.
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