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Old 07-28-2007, 06:10 AM
dchz dchz is offline
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Default BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

villian is dr.giggy

i do'nt have any stats on him but i know he's a very solid reg

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $607.20
Hero (BB): $335.05
UTG: $121.70
CO: $123.30
BTN: $210.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($16) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $11.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $44.00</font>, SB calls $33.00

Turn: ($104) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $65.00</font>,
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:35 AM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

I think you gotta call this down, unless river is something ridiculous. Maybe add some thoughts about where your at here instead of just posting the hand, Thanks
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

No stats makes it hard to make an informed decision.
Unusual bet back into u as the raiser -blocking bet??
Hard to see how to get away from 2 pair bvb but u have to be prepared to call the river if u call here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

So many hands he could have here since 3-betting that dry flop is not too hot. Not many worse are calling a turn raise though, and not many better are folding to it. You just have to call the turn and get ready for a really tough river decision.

Would be useful to know how he views you here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

Would you raise flop looking for a turn free card? If you do (and he knows it?) then his range has to be pretty wide still, and I think we're probably right to push.

If you don't, I'm not sure I see the point of his turn lead, and wonder quite what he's doing here. He has to be very strong, I should think: He doesn't show much concern over your flop reraise, unless you've been messing him around in those spots before. So I think that would make it a fold...
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

I don't see why this has to be a monster. If he has a hand like QQ/JJ/AT/QT or even AA he may play similarly since if he 3-bet the flop he's only getting the money in when he's drawing close to dead on this flop with these stacks. Now the K is a bad card, but he still thinks he's ahead of our range and wants to get value when ahead, but also doesn't want to be forced to call a near potsize bet when behind so he leads out, planning to fold to a raise with some of that range.

Not saying he wouldn't play a monster like this - just that I think it can easily be alot more than a monster. Of course a read on villain AND hero would be really helpful.

Most important thing here though is that a shove is just about never getting called by worse, and he probably does have some sort of real hand.
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:22 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

Weird hand. Anyway you can't raise bottom 2 in this spot 150BB deep without some read or meta going on. So call.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

I prefer calling flop and bombing turn. As played, call down I think
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

[ QUOTE ]
Weird hand. Anyway you can't raise bottom 2 in this spot 150BB deep without some read or meta going on. So call.

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i just think he's aggressive, and he's range is really wide on the flop and i'm trying to get value

his turn looks like TT or 78 of hearts or something

what do you think of a shove here?
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: BvB Deep 2 pair vs dr.giggy

eh, i don't think this is a draw often enough for shoving to be good here. i probably just call down.
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