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Old 11-13-2007, 02:38 AM
markuisis markuisis is offline
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Default Marginal spot in 3bet pot

Villain is aggro, running at 24/21, he defends his blinds a lot and seems pretty aggro in 3bet pots although he hasnt shown anything down yet.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $400
MP: $265.70
CO: $737.35
Hero (BTN): $465.50
SB: $393.70
BB: $315.55

Pre-Flop: 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $49</font>, Hero calls $35.

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $79</font>, Hero calls $79

Turn: ($260) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($260) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $265.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero?

Who shoves flop and if so, what hands do u expect getting called by which we have good equity against? (I dont consider us in good shape versus FD + two overs or even one over). Who shoves turn and y? Finally who calls this river and who calls a blank deuce river? Id like to know what ranges u expect my actions on each street to be +EV versus if u can. Thx.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

thin fold IMO.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

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thin fold IMO.

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so river could go either way? what if river is an offsuit deuce?
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

comments on other parts of the hand?
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

bump for a bit more feedback before going to sleep
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

river is pretty marginal
depends on villain i guess but regardless of who it is its close either way

pf and flop are standard, i like a call more than a shove if he can DB bluff obvi
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

I think it's a fold. This just looks like AA-JJ that feigned weakness on the turn. He felt like you would fold to a turn shove (which you probably would) and is trying to rep AK here. Against a good regular opponent I fold, against a donk I might call here.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

definitely marginal. i'm leaning toward a call as this is something in the AK/AQ/KQ range a lot. main thing is i don't see overpairs checking this turn often when the board is drawy as all [censored]. sucks if his AJ (or like T8s oh snap) hit and he's now valuebetting, but i really feel like a call is right here vs. this guy
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

What about the rest of the hand - do u guys play some streets differently? I feel too weak in these 3bet pots against aggros.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot in 3bet pot

I think I shove the turn. As played, it's surely a fold, he doesn't valuebet worse and isn't bluffing enough to make this profitable. I'm thinking I get shown JQ+ here a lot if I call.
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