do i have to pay this off?

schwza · #1 04-12-2007, 07:44 PM

also comments on other streets are appreciated too.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($495)
SB ($518.60)
BB ($609.30)
UTG ($400)
MP ($400)
CO ($378.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, SB calls $6, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($32) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $24, Hero calls $24, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($80) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $28, Hero calls $28.

villain is 1tormentor, who i have at 30/11 in 500+ hands. he strikes me as relatively straightforward postflop, but i'm not sure.

FionnMac · #2 04-12-2007, 07:50 PM

yes

Spechel EDD · #3 04-12-2007, 07:51 PM

id probably pay him off here. could be missed clubs or a smaller pair.

T0ne D0wn · #4 04-12-2007, 07:53 PM

its fine and sorta close

Overfloater · #5 04-12-2007, 07:56 PM

you dont have to do anything, you are your own man!

LearnedfromTV · #6 04-12-2007, 08:01 PM

i think you do. Probably has Ax clubs or something, but you're good 28/108.

Also since you can't be far wrong, this is a pretty cheap place to get some info.

Curse · #7 04-12-2007, 08:04 PM

I call and really make a note of what he has here.

schwza · #8 04-12-2007, 09:44 PM

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id probably pay him off here. could be missed clubs or a smaller pair.

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even though somebody with a small missed club draw could do this to bluff out a bigger missed draw, i don't think anybody ever does. i think if there's a total bluff, it's at least 1/2 pot.

schwza · #9 04-12-2007, 09:45 PM

also, i think the preflop and flop are pretty debatable, and probably more interesting than the river. thoughts on those streets?

Go_Blue88 · #10 04-12-2007, 10:02 PM

You only have to be ahead here like 30% of the time to make this call. He could be value betting worse here more than 30% of the time.