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Old 11-30-2007, 08:02 PM
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PECOTA > whatever other projections so I ignore them.

I can't find much that says Church wasn't awesome defensively.

I don't know if you can espouse your own opinions or just regurgitate what you've found on the internet, but just linking stuff and saying "loldisagreeaments" doesn't do anything
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:03 PM
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PECOTA > whatever other projections so I ignore them.

I can't find much that says Church wasn't awesome defensively.

I don't know if you can espouse your own opinions or just regurgitate what you've found on the internet, but just linking stuff and saying "loldisagreeaments" doesn't do anything

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According to 2007 PECOTA;
2008 MORP=Milledge $14.1, Church $6.7
2008 EQA=Milledge .287, Church .287
2008 Defnese in CF=Milledge -1, Church -2


Milledge is younger and more likely to improve while Church is older and more likely to decline. My guess is when the new PECOTA cards come out in Febuary, even after playing time adjustments, Milledge is going to be worth $3MM+ more than Church, according to MORP. The beating from 2009-2013 will be gargantuan.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***

One thing people are not noting is that Milledge was really pretty poor defensively, despite his tools (kind of like Strawberry was at first). From what I've been reading, Church is considered very good defensively.

That should be taken into the equation.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***

I don't want to come off as somebody in the anti-Church camp, I'm not. I think he's a pretty good ballplayer overall. If you can keep him as half of a platoon, he's really good. I'm sure you guys can tell by my valuation of other players, I'm more in the pro Milledge camp.

The real problem I have with this deal is, there is no real reason to make it right now. Pretty much no matter what happens between Milledge and Church in 2008, you would be able to make this deal at the trade deadline. The flip side is, when Milledge "hits", you've either got a great RF, or more to work with on the trade market. At the very least, give Milledge spring training to build value and see what you can get in late March. It could be more, but it can't be less.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:40 PM
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Pretty much no matter what happens between Milledge and Church in 2008, you would be able to make this deal at the trade deadline.

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This is reasonable logic
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***

how much do you think milledges rap album has to do with this
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:39 PM
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PECOTA > whatever other projections so I ignore them.

I can't find much that says Church wasn't awesome defensively.

I don't know if you can espouse your own opinions or just regurgitate what you've found on the internet, but just linking stuff and saying "loldisagreeaments" doesn't do anything

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lolol this is exactly what you do all the time
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