Wild horses (sunday lottery PStars madness)

[ebepse]

eh sorry guys looks like someone caught me hacking. i hope my account isnt locked before its over

(after jj and aa were all in)
ColdFire909: fwiw i folded QQ here
Patrio: u folded QQ now?
ColdFire909: yeah i had a read
ColdFire909: my friends call me daniel negreanu
Patrio: lol I hope that was a bad attemt at leveling
ColdFire909: even tho my real name isnt daniel or negreanu
ColdFire909: its albert
Patrio: the only way you could fold QQ there is if u had hacked Stars and could see hands
Patrio: So I am reporting u
Patrio: I am sending a mail to stars now
ColdFire909: no plz dont report me
Patrio: allready did, sry

[Ogre691]

dbbl

PokerStars Game #12362861544: Tournament #61826019, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (800/1600) - 2007/09/30 - 17:46:14 (ET)
Table '61826019 1569' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jdbigdog (19852 in chips)
Seat 2: bcfch8r (27241 in chips)
Seat 3: ogre691 (18695 in chips)
Seat 4: Lokux (13933 in chips)
Seat 5: PopUnknown (51090 in chips)
Seat 6: jado1 (30206 in chips)
Seat 7: Panda Gubu (17399 in chips)
Seat 8: thebeard#1 (32317 in chips)
Seat 9: hanstalstad (12440 in chips)
jdbigdog: posts the ante 150
bcfch8r: posts the ante 150
ogre691: posts the ante 150
Lokux: posts the ante 150
PopUnknown: posts the ante 150
jado1: posts the ante 150
Panda Gubu: posts the ante 150
thebeard#1: posts the ante 150
hanstalstad: posts the ante 150
Panda Gubu: posts small blind 800
thebeard#1: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ogre691 [Ad As]
hanstalstad: folds
jdbigdog: folds
bcfch8r: folds
ogre691: raises 2400 to 4000
Lokux: folds
PopUnknown: raises 10400 to 14400
jado1: folds
Panda Gubu: folds
thebeard#1: folds
ogre691: raises 4145 to 18545 and is all-in
PopUnknown: calls 4145
*** FLOP *** [2c 3s 9d]
*** TURN *** [2c 3s 9d] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [2c 3s 9d 3c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ogre691: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
PopUnknown: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
ogre691 collected 40840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40840 | Rake 0
Board [2c 3s 9d 3c 5h]
Seat 1: jdbigdog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bcfch8r folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ogre691 showed [Ad As] and won (40840) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 4: Lokux folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PopUnknown showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 6: jado1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Panda Gubu (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: thebeard#1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: hanstalstad folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[chadmack]

damn bros i only have like 11k now

[Chump Change]

[Chump Change]

GOGOOGOGOGOOOGOOGOGOGOG

[GaryTheGoat]

CC:
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I only said avatars for 24 hrs, but if you want to keep for a week that would be cool.

I also said 50/50 split, I don't know much about donkament staking but that seemed better than AEjones'75/25.

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Raymer:

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Is there any merit to staking without makeup? Would anyone do this?

In the Mark Blade book, "Professional Poker," he said the best deal would be a 70-30 split in favor of the backer with no makeup. The percentages could be adjusted down to 65-35 or 60-40 depending on how strong the player is.


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How can you back anybody for one event and give them 30-40%? Nobody is that good. If you back for one event, and the player is great, you can give them maybe as much as 20% and have positive EV for yourself. If you do a long-term backing deal, then you can give the horse 50% or so.

The way to avoid the make-up issue is to simply never have an open-ended deal. Make the deal for a set period of time, like 6 months or a year. Then, if the player has any integrity, they will play out the period, and do their best, no matter how deep the hole becomes. Of course, if they don't have such integrity, why would you ever back them to begin with?

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)



Create an imaginary record of results for a tournament player over a series of 100 events. If you can, get real data from a random online player for 100 tournaments in a row. Now, do the math if you had backed him for each event 1 at at time with him keeping a percentage of the profit. Now, do the math again, for the same set of 100 events, but this time give him a percentage of the net profit for all of the events combined.

In the first instance, the player has to make a profit for himself, unless he fails to cash in all 100 events. In the second instance, if the player loses, he gets nothing for his time. If the player does make some nice cashes, and a net profit, he will still end up with a LOT more money in the first instance, if the percentage he gets is the same. In fact, it is quite easy for a player to win over the period, and for the backer to lose, if the results are paid out to the player 1 event at a time.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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Here's how Greg...calculate the +ev of having a fun sweat with chump change avatared possee with anybody for chump change.

Well done Mr. Change.

gg

[Ogre691]

bust how much i ship to who?

PokerStars Game #12363014827: Tournament #61826019, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (800/1600) - 2007/09/30 - 17:54:25 (ET)
Table '61826019 1569' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jdbigdog (11652 in chips)
Seat 2: bcfch8r (38266 in chips)
Seat 3: ogre691 (23083 in chips)
Seat 4: Lokux (13483 in chips)
Seat 5: PopUnknown (28345 in chips)
Seat 6: jado1 (57281 in chips)
Seat 7: Panda Gubu (49363 in chips)
Seat 8: spekkoper7 (79822 in chips)
Seat 9: titernig1 (16827 in chips)
jdbigdog: posts the ante 150
bcfch8r: posts the ante 150
ogre691: posts the ante 150
Lokux: posts the ante 150
PopUnknown: posts the ante 150
jado1: posts the ante 150
Panda Gubu: posts the ante 150
spekkoper7: posts the ante 150
titernig1: posts the ante 150
bcfch8r: posts small blind 800
ogre691: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ogre691 [Qh As]
Lokux: folds
PopUnknown: folds
jado1: folds
Panda Gubu: folds
spekkoper7: folds
titernig1: folds
jdbigdog: calls 1600
bcfch8r: raises 4800 to 6400
ogre691: raises 16533 to 22933 and is all-in
jdbigdog: folds
bcfch8r: calls 16533
*** FLOP *** [Ts Kc 3s]
*** TURN *** [Ts Kc 3s] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Ts Kc 3s 3h] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bcfch8r: shows [5s 5d] (a full house, Threes full of Fives)
ogre691: shows [Qh As] (three of a kind, Threes)
bcfch8r collected 48816 from pot
Herthape is connected
spekkoper7 said, "nc"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 48816 | Rake 0
Board [Ts Kc 3s 3h 3d]
Seat 1: jdbigdog (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: bcfch8r (small blind) showed [5s 5d] and won (48816) with a full house, Threes full of Fives
Seat 3: ogre691 (big blind) showed [Qh As] and lost with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: Lokux folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PopUnknown folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jado1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Panda Gubu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spekkoper7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: titernig1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[DumbKid]

AK<JJ(me)<AQ
Ty for stake cc
<3<3<3

[ebepse]

PokerStars Game #12363017797: Tournament #61826019, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (800/1600) - 2007/09/30 - 17:54:35 (ET)
Table '61826019 498' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: ColdFire909 (53697 in chips)
Seat 3: Cloud2k4 (20785 in chips)
Seat 4: ugaajd (59222 in chips)
Seat 5: cypru (50005 in chips)
Seat 6: kopreitan (35604 in chips)
Seat 7: pjr425 (47735 in chips)
Seat 8: bruno712 (21549 in chips)
Seat 9: el_furiuso (10470 in chips)
ColdFire909: posts the ante 150
Cloud2k4: posts the ante 150
ugaajd: posts the ante 150
cypru: posts the ante 150
kopreitan: posts the ante 150
pjr425: posts the ante 150
bruno712: posts the ante 150
el_furiuso: posts the ante 150
ColdFire909: posts small blind 800
Cloud2k4: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ColdFire909 [As Qs]
ugaajd: folds
cypru: folds
kopreitan: folds
pjr425: folds
KGB1966 is connected
bruno712: calls 1600
el_furiuso: folds
ColdFire909: raises 5400 to 7000
Cloud2k4: folds
bruno712: raises 14399 to 21399 and is all-in
ColdFire909: calls 14399
ColdFire909 said, "wtf haxory"
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ac Jh]
ColdFire909 said, "aqaq"
ColdFire909 said, "FTW"
*** TURN *** [Qh Ac Jh] [2h]
ColdFire909 said, "NO"
*** RIVER *** [Qh Ac Jh 2h] [3h]
ColdFire909 said, "AJJDLD"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ColdFire909: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
bruno712: shows [9h 9c] (a flush, Queen high)
ColdFire909 said, "RIG"
ColdFire909 said, "HAX"
ColdFire909 said, "FK"
bruno712 collected 45598 from pot
ColdFire909 said, "SUPERUSER"
ColdFire909 said, "WHERE U CHEAT"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 45598 | Rake 0
Board [Qh Ac Jh 2h 3h]
Seat 2: ColdFire909 (small blind) showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: Cloud2k4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ugaajd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cypru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: kopreitan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pjr425 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bruno712 showed [9h 9c] and won (45598) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 9: el_furiuso (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[burns-1986]

out 1957th
card dead whole tourney
gl anyone still in