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Old 08-29-2006, 05:16 AM
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Default Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

Villain 23/12/2 over a large sample. River fold is good, right? Would anyone fold the turn? What about reraising the flop? I actually felt okay about my play here but I wasn't sure......


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($394)
Hero ($429.50)
SB ($384.79)
BB ($330.50)
UTG ($191.20)
MP ($796)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB (poster) calls $16, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($44) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $75</font>, Hero calls $45.

Turn: ($194) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100.

River: ($394) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
He bets about 250 and I fold.

Final Pot: $394
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Old 08-29-2006, 05:17 AM
mythrilfox mythrilfox is offline
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

fold flop

fold turn

fold river
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Old 08-29-2006, 05:53 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

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fold flop

fold turn

fold river

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Old 08-29-2006, 06:07 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

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What about reraising the flop?

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as a bluff?
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

For the ones who say fold flop: What is the minimum for hero to continue after the flop raise?
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

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fold flop

fold turn

fold river

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hey, how are you guys so confident about folding the flop? Do you think this player is never bluffing in this spot?

I can see folding the turn, since a 2 barrell bluff is less likely, but please explain the flop.....

CDC, it wouldn't be a reraise as a bluff, it would be to catch those times that he's bluffing but still has outs.....
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:50 PM
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CDC, it wouldn't be a reraise as a bluff, it would be to catch those times that he's bluffing but still has outs.....

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i dont think he is semibluffin this flop.

ness
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:08 PM
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CDC, it wouldn't be a reraise as a bluff, it would be to catch those times that he's bluffing but still has outs.....

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i dont think he is semibluffin this flop.

ness

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Not exactly a sb... something like T9s, and him thinking, "There is no way he's calling here without an ace, and since he steals alot there is enough chance that he doesn't have an ace that my raise will show profit."
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Fold Good Ace After BTN Steal

This is fine, but you should know how often this player takes shots at preflop raisers. Vs a lot of nits at 2/4 folding flop is perfectly fine. Would he always reraise AK here pre?

Folding the turn is good as well.

It all depends on the player, but against a lot of players in party 1k I would take this line.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:17 PM
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This is fine, but you should know how often this player takes shots at preflop raisers. Vs a lot of nits at 2/4 folding flop is perfectly fine. Would he always reraise AK here pre

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Exactly. The prob is I don't know anything about him but those stats. I assume that, because a bunch of good posters think a flop fold is clear, this kind of flop bluff is uncommon at these stakes from a player with these stats.

I may be misguidedly projecting my thinking, because this is exactly the kind of bluff that I make sometimes.
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