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Old 11-20-2007, 02:45 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

Villain is 52/20/3. Flop AF is 2.5. Raised flop c-bets 25%. showdown stats are 30/43.

no history, but he's def very aggro, saw him limp/rr QJ earlier this session.

UTG: $292.60
BTN: $228
Hero (SB): $201
BB: $194

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $17

Flop: ($50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $64</font>, Hero ????

fold? call? shove?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:51 PM
illwill514 illwill514 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

gross spot i think i find a fold though and if he keeps doing that minraise [censored] i d start shoving this on him
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

Calling the flop min-raise to fold unimproved on the turn is spewing. Why are you three-betting preflop? I understand it's for value, it makes your hand difficult to play oop.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

folding and shoving are both fine imo
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

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Calling the flop min-raise to fold unimproved on the turn is spewing. Why are you three-betting preflop? I understand it's for value, it makes your hand difficult to play oop.

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3-betting pre-flop w/ TT is 100% standard against a maniac in a 4-handed game.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

id want some more "3bet pot info" on him before i do anything else than call and re-eval on turn.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

i'd call and crai if he's that bluff happy. If he isn't that bluff happy but overvalues hands then shove. I doubt I'm folding.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

Fold or shove, although 90% of the people here like to flat call and fold to the turn bet, which is an excellent line... if you like bleeding money.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

shove but expect to see QK type hands pretty much everytime when called. fwiw I think you have the best hand here most of the time.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT on Q high wet flop against maniac - 3 bet pot

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i'd call and crai if he's that bluff happy. If he isn't that bluff happy but overvalues hands then shove. I doubt I'm folding.

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are there any turn cards you aren't crai?
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