3 barrel in 3-bet pot vs reg

[Casper05]

Villain is Topcat1680 and running 22/18/2.5

We have been 3-betting each other a decent amount on two tables that we are on together...he has started to call me a little lighter- Ive taken a couple down with c-bets and have ch/folded once I believe.

I think he got a little tilty after this hand:

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $206
SB: $195
BB: $36.75
UTG: $304.15
MP: $39.80
CO: $200

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $60</font>, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($123) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $61</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $146 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $79 and is All-In

EDIT to add results- villain had Q8 soooted

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This hand is over an hour after the previous hand and I don't think he's calling/getting it in this light vs me anymore...esp 150BBs 'deep'.

<font color="blue">I think he has TT/JJ here a TON...thoughts? Maybe he's just letting me hang myself? Does my turn bet look weak or look like its setting up an easyish river shove?</font>

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $346.05
Hero (SB): $298.75
BB: $154.15
UTG: $224.35
CO: $264.35

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $23</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $16

Flop: ($48) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30

Turn: ($108) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $65</font>, BTN calls $65

River: ($238) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero shoves for ~170 and is All-In</font>

[Casper05]

nm hand editted for discussion

[ofishstix]

the majority of his range is prolly aa-99 and aq. that seem right?

[Casper05]

Yes, but how often do you think he gets to turn with AQ/AK here?

Assuming he gets to turn with AQ some % of the time, can he fold it to the river shove?

And wouldnt he be 4-betting QQ+ almost always with our history?

[ofishstix]

i think given history he's prolly playing most of these hands the same preflop. if ive been 3betting a ton, id either tarp with aa or 4bet 99 for value, etc.

and he's pretty much never folding aq by the river.

[JonnyCosMo]

LMAO... What hours do you play sir? Lets play together. You seem like a fun opponent.

[JonnyCosMo]

Oh you play on fulltilt... that is sad news [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[startrak]

3betting small PPs oop is marginal even against opponents that doesnt play back at you much, no need to put yourself in this spot when he obviously is gonna pay you of anyway.

I dont think almost anyone at nl200 is capable of having AA/KK here and snapp call river and hes never folding a Q.

For me anyway it's a math thing that im too tired to set up right now, figure out his range, what he will call with and how often it will have to work etc..

Its not that horrible if you think he will fold TT/JJ, but you have to do it with AQ+ too, ballsy to bluff of 300bb though.

[Daddy Warbucks]

If he's the type to felt any top pair in a 3 bet pot, which in in itself isn't necessarily bad, then i hate this.

[Barrin6]

wow you are so dead...