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Old 09-03-2007, 09:47 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

What's the play here. Villian is spaz.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

What else is there to do but call?
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

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What else is there to do but call?

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Raising would never enter your mind? Villian would cap any high ace pre-flop. Also, what clubs is he capping pre-flop?
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

Honestly it wouldn't. Did we improve on this river?
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

What do you accomplish by raising? Is villain likely to believe you would raise with QQ-KK,AJ, how aggro is he?
Possible hands in villain(by river)AK-Q, KK-99?(To narrow?)

The fact that the board pairs the A is good for you, imo, lots think it less likely you`ll have one then. I agree that few flush hands would be played like this, unless he adds 8,7s hands to his raiserange here?
Anyways, even so it doesnt make up for alot of combos.
99=3 87s,76s=2, AQ=4, AK 1, KK=3 QQ=6
What would you do if he comes over the top again? Will he call with many hands you beat? I can see a case for raising, but it takes reads imo

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Old 09-03-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

dependeds on how much of a spaz he is imo. if he is a total tard who runs wierd bluffs all the time then this is an easy raise/call. if he's a good lag, its still raise/call i guess.....but i hate calling if he 3 balls us.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

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What else is there to do but call?

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Honestly it wouldn't. Did we improve on this river?

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

we didn't improve vs villain's range on the river, as 23 29 39 are most likely not possible

if he is capping every ace pre and would play them like that on the turn, you have enough equity to cap the turn and bet/call the river (just calling if bet into)
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

I would raise this. Maybe vs. a regular tag the river doesn't improve your hand but w/ your limited read, the chances that he's a complete idiot drastically increases when you completely remove AA from his range IMO.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

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Villian would cap any high ace pre-flop. Also, what clubs is he capping pre-flop?


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You seem to be arguing that the river did not help you.

I kind of agree. So I call.
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