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Old 11-03-2007, 11:59 PM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $12.25
UTG: $14.05
MP: $5.45
CO: $5.10
Hero (BTN): $10
SB: $13.55

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.80</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.50</font>
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:01 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

fold preflop both times, KJo is a crappy hand, full of reverse implied odds

as played...i think i play it the same on the flop
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:20 AM
Schiester Schiester is offline
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

Sorry, didn't see you were on the button. Raising this on the button is fine to me if its folded to me.

I'll almost always fold to the 3bet though.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

I fold preflop but I'm felting this on the flop.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

I raise PF as you did, but fold to reraise, especially from BB, but on the flop I am happy to get it all in, this is about as good a flop as you can hope with KJo :S
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:14 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

raising PF sucks, just fold it
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

KJo is still in the top 1/8th of hands. For the sake of a blind steal here this is fine imo. If you're called you have position with a potentially (yet often dominated I admit) reasonable hand.

I personally only raise this when the blinds are tight enough that I have a reasonable chance of getting away with this pf most of the time.

Calling the 3bet is the main problem here.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

Opps. Sorry. I thought pf was folded around.

I am certain to fold in this situation.

Sorry Micro.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

yea if it was folded to us on the button, its an easy raise...but not with 3 limpers. if its suited i may limp behind
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???

You have less than a PSR.


Pot is 12:8 so you need 40%.

You are 41% against jj+.

He might fold every once in a while.

Rake hurts a little.

A call is prob slightly +ev, maybe neutral.

Slight rewards, high variance.

I just shove it in.

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