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Old 10-02-2007, 10:29 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

Villian is bad...B.A.D, bad. Playing 56/10/1.5. his range is actually quite wide for doing this. He has done it against me a few times and we have not seen a showdown yet.


Whats your plan for the hand? Whats the best line considering I could have him crushed, but I could also be behind a better ace alot?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $46.45
BB: $34.95
UTG: $64.20
Hero (MP): $46.00
CO: $76.10
BTN: $19.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($6.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.50</font>

Pot Size: $12.00
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

Raise to 13$. snap call shove
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

I say Call....don't force out the crap, or the JJ-KK he's just doing this with and just control pot size a little instead of trying to make him fold A9.

If you hit a club or a 3 somewhere then obviously you raise either the turn or the river.....or maybe both if he plays them weird.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
z28dreams z28dreams is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

What's the point of raising his flop bet?

If he has something like JJ-KK raising might make him fold with an ace on the board.

If he has an ace, we're behind every combination except A2, and he'll likely call given that he's bad.

If he has a set he'll shove and then we're just gonna have crappy odds to call a flush draw.

Why not just call?
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

Just call the flop. The only time we would raise is when we believe villain can fold AK/AQ. By your description this is happening never.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:37 PM
MaltbyStu MaltbyStu is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

I'm not keen on the PF raise but the call is easy against this guy.

Call the flop if you think he will pay you off if you hit.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

sorry - has to be reiterated - this should be folded pf as the standard play.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

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sorry - has to be reiterated - this should be folded pf as the standard play.

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I disagree. It actually is my standard to fold this in MP and raise on CO, but I've been thinking of expanding my MP opening range to include more suited aces.

I think raising this here can be fine if you know what you're doing.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:07 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

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sorry - has to be reiterated - this should be folded pf as the standard play.

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if I have 2 tight players on my left, MP becomes CO for me.


I play 26/22 btw.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Axs on a WA/SB flop

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I disagree. It actually is my standard to fold this in MP and raise on CO

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this is also my standard

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but I've been thinking of expanding my MP opening range to include more suited aces.

I think raising this here can be fine if you know what you're doing.

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maybe you do, but i think the majority of uNL would probably be better off folding it.

this post really put my mindset back into solid TAG play which should always be our foundation.
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