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Old 12-20-2006, 01:43 AM
ratholeusoul ratholeusoul is offline
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Default 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

Villain is horryclutch on stars 400nl 6max. I've had some history with him during the last few days and I think he's a solid, thinking player. First I pegged him as a nit, but he's capable of making some plays. I have him 22/16/3.5 over ~500 hands and I have LAG image.

If this was heads up, I'd instacallSHIPITHOLLApostbbv, but this is multiway and I'm scared. Is my hand transparent? Could he put me on AJ, AQ, AK here? What should I think about when making this decision?


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $822.60
Hero: $1520.70
Button: $484.25
SB: $645.35
BB: $413

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($84, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $148</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($380, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB instantly shoves all-in $477.35</font>
Results:
Final pot: $380
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:13 AM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

This is a really easy flop fold. Your showing a ton of strength and he doesn't care.

As played I think I call though. His range is either a combo draw or set.
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:16 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

even though it's multiway, instacallSHIPITHOLLApostbbv, and it's not even close. if he has 44/55, so be it, I'm expecting to see AsTs, or something similiar out of horryclutch here
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

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This is a really easy flop fold. Your showing a ton of strength and he doesn't care.

As played I think I call though. His range is either a combo draw or set.

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How can this be a really easy flop fold, but then you suddenly call the turn?
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:41 AM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

well he instashoved all in. if he had some decent made hand he'd prob stop a second to weigh his options. looked like he was planning on raising flop and shoving turn from the start though
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:03 AM
Psydoc Psydoc is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

I guess I'm wondering if it's really that easy of a flop fold then, given that we find a call on the turn. Seems possible he's raising our cbet on the flop with less than a set a decent amount...no?
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:41 AM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

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This is a really easy flop fold. Your showing a ton of strength and he doesn't care.

As played I think I call though. His range is either a combo draw or set.

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How can this be a really easy flop fold, but then you suddenly call the turn?

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I think it's an easy flop fold because your either WB or splitting. Now it is no longer the case as your either WB or large favorite.

EDIT: Also note the way he played the hand really looks more like a combo draw/flush draw.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:53 AM
aejones aejones is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

vs horryclutch, it's a flop fold, and it's not close. there are twenty factors going into my fold, none of which i will share here.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:13 AM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

just remembered...

i forgot to tell you to fold the flop.

fold the flop
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: AJ multiway deep.. I\'m lost :/

call
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