50NL - Post/special - Line Check

[Split Suit]

a lil bit of reasoning might help...

[AllTheCheese]

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a lil bit of reasoning might help...

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Any reasonable Queen is ahead of you. Ace of diamonds can't (or shouldn't) bluff too often here because the sidepot is pretty small and not worth it. Betting Q9 is essentially the same as betting 87. It's a bluff which beats a lone Ace of diamonds. If you would bet 87 in this spot, go ahead and bet here. If not, check.

EDIT: I'm thinking check-call is better now. I stoved some and here's what I got.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.402% 43.50% 01.90% 823 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 54.598% 52.70% 01.90% 997 36.00 { 77, 33, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 43s, Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

Sorry bout that. lol I suck @ three-flush flops.

[GiantBuddha]

I'm not sure by how much, but our equity's definitely a little worse against a range with 22 instead of 33.

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I stoved some and here's what I got.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.402% 43.50% 01.90% 823 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 54.598% 52.70% 01.90% 997 36.00 { 77, 33, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 43s, Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

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[AllTheCheese]

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I'm not sure by how much, but our equity's definitely a little worse against a range with 22 instead of 33.

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I stoved some and here's what I got.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.402% 43.50% 01.90% 823 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 54.598% 52.70% 01.90% 997 36.00 { 77, 33, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 43s , Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

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It'd also be nice if he didn't have any old 43 suited too. LOL. Here.

Board: Qc Qd 7d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.467% 28.26% 02.21% 460 36.00 { Qh9d }
Hand 1: 69.533% 67.32% 02.21% 1096 36.00 { 77, 22, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QTs+, JdTd, Td8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, 5d3d, 4d3d, Ad7c, Ad7h, Ad7s, KQo, QTo+ }

I knew it couldn't be right that we were in that good of shape.

[Dorian008]

It's quite close here, first u can't be sure your Queen is the best hand on the flop, but it's not a bad play to raise on the flop

turn b/f, something like 10$ you won't get a raise from a hand you've got beat
river, if he calls and no diamon comes out and u don't imrpove to a boat - bet again something like 10$ (a blockbet) and fold again against a raise

it's also possible to play check/call on the river, but against an unknown i would prefer a blockbet

[ship_it_trebek]

I think a coldcall here is Ad a lot more than people are suggesting. Is someone really slowplaying a set, 2p on this board? A higher Q is possible but I think we see Ad a lot here.

[coordi]

The vast majority of 50nl slowplays their monsters.

I think a half-pot lead is best here, 8-9, for an easy b/f. If you make it to the river unimproved c/c most reasonable bets.

[KurtSF]

I c/f the flop.

Is there really much value in playing a multi-way unraised pot with top-pair-crap-kicker-chity-draw?

[coordi]

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I c/f the flop.

Is there really much value in playing a multi-way unraised pot with top-pair-crap-kicker-chity-draw?

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I thought this was already assumed

[Split Suit]

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I c/f the flop.

Is there really much value in playing a multi-way unraised pot with top-pair-crap-kicker-chity-draw?

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ummm....cant c/f here. an there is value...just slim/high variance value