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Old 10-10-2007, 10:24 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

villain is unknown; just sat

i was going to cr turn if he bet, and if he checks behind, my hand is much stronger than i've represented and there's only 2 OCs

i'd cr the flop sometimes, but i don't know how agg villain is

should i just have bet turn too? i guess the same argument can be made for not trying to cr turn as for not trying to cr flop... it's just that if i bet the turn, i'm basically going for value against mostly only JJ

by the river i really think he's got exactly one hand very very often, right?

i mean i'm obv gonna call the river, but given action should i consider raising?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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SB: $488.30
keikiwai (BB): $406
UTG: $400
BTN: $434.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to keikiwai (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $15</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">keikiwai raises to $53</font>, UTG calls $38

Flop: ($108) 9 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T (2 Players)
<font color="red">keikiwai bets $80</font>, UTG calls $80

Turn: ($268) 3 (2 Players)
keikiwai checks, UTG checks

River: ($268) T (2 Players)
keikiwai checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $134</font>
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:34 PM
d2themfi d2themfi is offline
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

obv never fold. Raising seems really thin vs an unknown. i think I would have bet this river, but as played i proly just call w/ no reads
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

im just betting turn to set up a riv shove
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

Bet a bit more on the flop and than shove the turn. As played you need to call the river. I think its just a call not a raise because villain can def have 88-22 a lot here.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:42 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

actually yeah I agree w/ eagles betting bigger flop and shoving turn, youd have to make a weird turn bet otherwise
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

yeah also agree with eagles line to take
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:54 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

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Bet a bit more on the flop and than shove the turn. As played you need to call the river. I think its just a call not a raise because villain can def have 88-22 a lot here.

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i already thought my flop bet was on the biggish side, since it's a rred pot on a dry flop

how big would you make flop? $90?
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

I think given that river card this is fine (and not necessarily because I think he has a ten, which I don't think he does).
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: basic dbl paired rred pot 400nl

What hands can you value raise against?

You think he called the flop with A high, checked the turn, and then is going to be willing to bet the river for value, AND call a raise?

Obv don't fold.
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