I 3-bet the flop?

Scotty. · #1 01-17-2007, 04:35 AM

SB is 32/22 and pretty tough/aggro.
MP is 40/4 and generally passive and bad.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB raises, Hero 3-bets

Like it? Hate it? Response to a cap?

milesdyson · #2 01-17-2007, 04:41 AM

I'm wondering about SB's range. I think he raises a lot from the SB preflop so the Kh is unlikely. This flop c/r seems pretty legit.

goofball · #3 01-17-2007, 05:11 AM

I don't like the fold. You're getting 14:1 you know.

timoK · #4 01-17-2007, 07:02 AM

what might SB just call out of the SB with one fish calling from MP?
suited and offsuited connectors, suited one gaper, small pocket pairs - I guess.
he checkraised you with an cold caller...
pretty good chance that he has the flush or 44 (unless he's blufing a lot or does this with air)

I am more like call and pray (folding seems a little too weak) but I def. don't see a 3-bet here.

TomBrooks · #5 01-17-2007, 01:33 PM

Without a specific read on how SB plays flush draws and flopped flushes I think you're shooting in the dark. I tend to play more conservatively in the meantime.

27offsooot · #6 01-17-2007, 01:34 PM

I would wait for a safe turn to pop.

colgin · #7 01-17-2007, 02:49 PM

I probably don't like the three-bet against a typical opponent but against a tough-aggro one I really don't like it. You may very well be behind. When you are ahead at least one of your opponents probably has a flush draw. And a cap from villain still doesn't give you a good idea of where you stand since he is tough-aggro. I just call and reevaluate on the turn.

GMFlash01 · #8 01-17-2007, 04:23 PM

This might be where I am losing a bunch of money but I just call down and fold if another heart hits. If you are ahead you get the cold caller to keep calling and make up for the 3 bet, but if you are behind, which I think we are, 3-betting is just spewing and chasing away the third party.

What is everyone's thoughts on calling planning to raise a blank turn?

Kwaz · #9 01-17-2007, 07:14 PM

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