NL400 77 Full house how to extract most (deep)

[baaard]

Reads : SB 36 12 , passive preflop AF by streets 2.3/2.6/2.9. Looks to me that he can read hands and fold etc. UTG+1 is a fish.

On to the hand. Ive been playing TAG.
I flop a full house from the bb, we are deep. Not sure if 310 is the right amount on turn. Comments on flop play to?


$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$1027.90</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$933.18</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$292.15</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$84.50</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$782.00</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$1137.15</font>)

Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is BB 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, SB calls $2, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, UTG+1 calls $14, SB calls $14

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $86</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $230</font>, SB calls $144

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($520, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $310</font>, <font color="#777777">SB folds</font>

[pdoran10]

i know we want to get the maximum in on the flop so that we can play for stacks in this hand, but i think to anyone who can read hands, your flop 3 bet is going to come across as very strong given that it's a paired board on the flop, giving you a much smaller range of hands because people make large semibluff raises on paired boards less often imo.

Given that you got a passive player to just take the lead in the hand while you are in position and can manipulate pot size to play for stacks without 3 betting the flop, i really like calling his raise and finding a way to get more money in on later streets.

As played i like the size of your turn bet.

[olof86]

If you are to bet the turn I'd just shove, he's not gonna call that turnbet with a draw anyway, and a shove should look weaker then a 300 bet (still representing a good hand, but often not a FH). I'm thinking we only get paid by 5x, AA/KK.. and sometimes a bluffcatcher when he thinks you got a draw, which a shove represents better then a smaller bet. And you shouldn't be worried about him putting you on a five, cause you cannot have it. All in all, shove &gt; smaller bet when thinking about his callingrange. And btw, I wouldn't hate checking back turn.

[Renton]

i like flatcalling his raise and 3betting a larger amount to align the pot for a turn shove both better than this.

[SluggishJ82]

flatting the flop raise is better than b/3b imo. gives him some rope as he's fairly aggro on later streets and also allows for the pot to be all in by showdown.

[Bikini Wax]

I'm all for fast playing, I'd make flop 3b to 200 to encourage a flush draw to tag along, bet 3/5ths of pot on turn (or just call if he bets)

really his range here is a 5 or a flush draw or a smallish overpair

if he has a 5 hes probably stacking off no matter what, a flush draw we gotta let him hit and you wont extract much vs a small overpair

[JasonP530]

think about villians most likely hands. what happens when you bet the turn with some, and bet the turn with others? Weight the range and the outcomes against that range. Makes the decisions very easy...

[Kala1928]

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think about villians most likely hands. what happens when you bet the turn with some, and bet the turn with others? Weight the range and the outcomes against that range. Makes the decisions very easy...

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How about some content instead of babbling. You sure make poker sound easy.