ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio

[atrainpsu]

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Does the dealer have any authority to muck a hand that is still live, like in this example?

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This is exactly what I was wondering. This situation occurred at the TAJ where my friend was facing a large 3 bet allin on the flop and was trying to decide what to do. After maybe a minute the dealer called the clock. My friend then kind of got into with the dealer, while trying to make the big decision. I didn't think about it at the time, but would the dealer have been able to physically muck a protected hand, if my friend decided to disregard what the dealer said? I'm like 95% sure the floor would have to be there for to do that.

P.S. Friend layed down KJ on a KJT flop, and villain showed pocket 3s. Friend goes on supertilt.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

Good show Al, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

[Don Olney]

Al,
You did good, but in simple terms the dealers job is to:
1. SHUT UP AND DEAL
2. Keep table order
3. make sure bets and side pots are right
4. SHUT UP AND DEAL
5. Push pot to winning player

[DavidC]

lol you don't even have to list the rules, just say "Dealer, you aren't involved in the hand, put your watch away, and shut up."

[TheWorm967]

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lol you don't even have to list the rules, just say "Dealer, you aren't involved in the hand, put your watch away, and shut up."

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QFMFT

[dudemanjack]

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Does the dealer have any authority to muck a hand that is still live, like in this example?

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This is exactly what I was wondering. This situation occurred at the TAJ where my friend was facing a large 3 bet allin on the flop and was trying to decide what to do. After maybe a minute the dealer called the clock. My friend then kind of got into with the dealer, while trying to make the big decision. I didn't think about it at the time, but would the dealer have been able to physically muck a protected hand, if my friend decided to disregard what the dealer said? I'm like 95% sure the floor would have to be there for to do that.

P.S. Friend layed down KJ on a KJT flop, and villain showed pocket 3s. Friend goes on supertilt.

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I've only seen one dealer at the Taj (or anywhere in AC) call the clock on the player. She called the clock on my friend (who is a dealer as am I) and cost herself a $10 tip. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person, but her name escapes me. I think she was a black woman though, maybe in her late 20's.

[tuq]

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I've only seen one dealer at the Taj (or anywhere in AC) call the clock on the player. She called the clock on my friend (who is a dealer as am I) and cost herself a $10 tip. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person, but her name escapes me. I think she was a black woman though, maybe in her late 20's.

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Racist.

[zuluking]

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Racist.

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Naw, just ignorant. Happens all the time on 2+2.

[kemystery]

FWIW when I used to deal if a player wanted to call the clock on a fellow player I would call the floor to let him/her initiate a clock, and make a point to tell the floor the approximate amount of time said player had already spent on the decision - I would never had instituted a clock myself, my particular brand of dealing would call for prompting a player that was taking a long amount of time on a decision by reminding the player "Sir, the bet is $145 to you." "It's your action, Sir." etc.

Being from a player background myself, I never saw the point of trying to hurry a decision for a significant amount of money in NL cash games, but I have actually told several people in LHE games taking an inordinate amount of time on a decision to "Fold, call or raise buddy, there's not a lot to it." or something similiar

[Quadstriker]

Started a new gig last week. Inquired about their clocking protocal the first day. Was told that if and only if a player asks, call the floor and let them do it.