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Old 06-22-2007, 10:14 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

Villain here is sb (46/32) and I (38/37) are running the game over. My only real question is a river raise, but feel free to comment on anything you want.

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Blinds: $10/$20
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Stack sizes:
ikestoys: $5932
SB: $6185.50
BB: $9052.50

Pre-flop: (3 players) ikestoys is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">ikestoys raises to $70</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($150, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">ikestoys bets $125</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $310</font>, ikestoys calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($770, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $450</font>, ikestoys calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1670, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1150</font>, ikestoys ????
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:23 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

I think this is one of those spots where your image isn't going to sway his calling range too much. What do you mean by [censored] image? Are you just splashing around a lot in small pots, or have you been playing for stacks like ever other hand? Only raise that really makes sense with stacks is a minraise IMO. I guess you could make it 2700 and fold to a push, but you're getting paid by exactly QT really. He owns you with 55/KJ and sometimes TT/AA. I don't see him playing one pair this way, and he is unlikely to have the A since you have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. So I call river. I think flop is interesting. I think flop is ok. I'm tempted to 3-bet the flop, but I think that play works better with less than 200bb. I think with these stacks its good to keep smaller FD and 1 pair in for when you hit.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:25 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

lol well isura thinks exactly like i do
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

and by bad image, i mean i'm playing very aggressively. villain should know that i'm a good player.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:44 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

just call
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Old 06-22-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

I agree with a lot of what Isura said. I just call.
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Old 06-22-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

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I agree with a lot of what Isura said. I just call.

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yeah so do i, but when villain turned up 68o i was wondering if i could someone to make a case for the value out of a raise
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

Would you guys still call here had the turn been 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or some other blank instead of the 7?
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

I call this river just because it is possible that he missed a combo draw and this is a good card to bluff, and he also just could be valuebetting QT or somethin. I don't think raising gets value from worse hands, so this is a good time to call down.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:56 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Deep + 2 pair + [censored] image = raise?

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I agree with a lot of what Isura said. I just call.

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yeah so do i, but when villain turned up 68o i was wondering if i could someone to make a case for the value out of a raise

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I think he probably would have found a fold.
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