25NL This is why I hate AK....

[oober]

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Just fold or call preflop with emphasis on folding. Flop is an easy fold, he probably has JJ/QQ and isn't folding.

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Ditto!!!!!!1

[Hebel]

actually, this is why i love ak. its easy to get away from unimproved.

[zyrrth]

i hate the preflop 4bet

[RyanCMU]

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Just fold or call preflop with emphasis on folding. Flop is an easy fold, he probably has JJ/QQ and isn't folding.

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Ditto!!!!!!1

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Fold PF, are you guys on [censored] crack!?

An unkown (I assume) 3bets or UTG raise and we fold? C'mon now, folding is cray.

[Acevader]

I'll sometimes fold preflop and wait for a better spot. Our hand range UTG is pretty transparent. If his 3-bet range is wide enough then I'd 4-bet push. The problem with 4-betting like this is when they just call which they do way more often then you'd believe. Calling to his a flop is bad IMHO. If you don't hit you've donated money, if you do hit you'll either get little action because JJ-QQ will pack up their balls and leave or you'll get loads of action because you are dominated and drawing near dead.

[Sugar Nut]

Sorry for posting my own hand, I didn't even want to post it at all but since I think it fits into the discussion quite well, here it is.
Effective Stacks are 175BB and implieds aren't that great given that he will slow down if overs to his TT-QQ come. Reverse Implied odds are quite big though if he has KK or AA an the case A/K comes out there.

I would have to hit a miragle Flop of TJQ to maybe stack his set of Q's, but even then I would have to dodge his FH/Quads outs. Last option is, he has AK aswell in which case he's winning the hand as long as we don't hit and he bets the flop or we do hit put more money in and likely split it, loosing to the rake.

Long story short: Easy fold to me

Sugar Nut

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($47.55)
Hero ($43.75)
SB ($27.75)
BB ($23.75)
UTG ($17.05)
UTG+1 ($37.05)
MP1 ($4.65)
MP2 ($15.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12.75</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $7.35

[AllTheCheese]

OP, call preflop. Get in on any Ace (with no Queen) or diamonds. Two pair+ is self explanatory, get in. C/c one street with a King.

[WantToLearn]

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OP, call preflop. Get in on any Ace (with no Queen) or diamonds.

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Ok, so what if flop comes AQx? Do we give up then? What about AJx?

[wikemang]

I shove preflop fwiw.