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Old 01-26-2007, 01:23 PM
dardo dardo is offline
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Default 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?


Had just entered the table. No reads. The general atmosphere at the tables is of aggressiveness.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $66.80
Button: $67.00
dardo: $99.00
BB: $61.80

Pre-flop: (4 players) dardo is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">dardo raises to $6</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">dardo bets $8.2</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($29.4, 2 players)
dardo checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">dardo raises to $70</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $32.3</font>.
Uncalled bets: $17.7 returned to dardo.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($134, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $134)


Results:
Final pot: $134
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

Looks fine.
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Old 01-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

I probably bet more on the flop. I like the turn crai. What do we expect to get a call from that we beat here? TT, JJ?
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Old 01-26-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

If you bet $1.8-4.8 more on the flop I'd give you a goldstar!
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Old 01-26-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

I prefer a larger preflop raise and a larger bet on the flop. The CRAI worked fine here, but I don't like giving villain a chance to peal on a draw heavy board without a read - maybe I'm in the minority here though
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

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I probably bet more on the flop. I like the turn crai. What do we expect to get a call from that we beat here? TT, JJ?

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That.s the problem. Opponent has few hands he will play this strong. I was just tired of people bluffing me out that just pushed here. But I wouldn.t be surprised to find a real hand here most of the times.

Villain had K4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Ship it.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

the line is great is you feel he will fire turn. i sometimes hesitate on these boards as far as checking turn and giving possible free cards. worked out well but you need to bet closer to 10-11 on flop
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:19 PM
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I probably bet more on the flop. I like the turn crai. What do we expect to get a call from that we beat here? TT, JJ?

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That.s the problem. Opponent has few hands he will play this strong. I was just tired of people bluffing me out that just pushed here. But I wouldn.t be surprised to find a real hand here most of the times.

Villain had K4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Ship it.

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He didn't play it strong... he called your flop bet, then you checked, and he bet. You under reppresented your hand and he took a stab. He would do this with a wide range of hands that you beat.

The thing is that he is way too short to even consider folding in this spot. You will see a lot of stuff that you beat here a large majority of the time. The line is called stack-a-donk for a reason.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:45 AM
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He didn't play it strong... he called your flop bet, then you checked, and he bet. You under reppresented your hand and he took a stab. He would do this with a wide range of hands that you beat.

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This is great against an aggressive player, but against a nit you're dead. I had just entered the table and wasn't sure what was going on, although short stacks usually mean action.

It's quite confusing because sometimes the tables are very aggressive and sometimes they're not and you need to adjust as fast as possible to not spew.
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: 100NL -- QQ, played too aggro?

your play looks fine.. I usually bet more PF and on flop.. btw as soon as he min-raises flop from button that should indicate a bad player.
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