100/200 150bb deep - play along

[jsnipes28]

i obv haven't played against aba, but against most players i think leading is perfectly fine. i think call>fold>c/r

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think I would c/f usually, c/c against some people. Generally c/c against not so great people or really great people but not the run-of-the-mill winners. I've never played against aba, but assume he is great so i would prob c/c.

[KRANTZ]

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i obv haven't played against aba, but against most players i think leading is perfectly fine. i think call>fold>c/r

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why? i know what he can put me on, but what can he look me up with if i lead?

[KRANTZ]

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I think I would c/f usually, c/c against some people. Generally c/c against not so great people or really great people but not the run-of-the-mill winners. I've never played against aba, but assume he is great so i would prob c/c.

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if we assume (and it's a good assumption, clearly) that he is great then c/r should be far and away better than c/c. and wouldn't c/f be better, still? does a great player just make a transparent bluff like this?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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I think I would c/f usually, c/c against some people. Generally c/c against not so great people or really great people but not the run-of-the-mill winners. I've never played against aba, but assume he is great so i would prob c/c.

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if we assume (and it's a good assumption, clearly) that he is great then c/r should be far and away better than c/c. and wouldn't c/f be better, still? does a great player just make a transparent bluff like this?

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I think great players WILL make transparent bluffs like this because you assume they won't. But yes, I think c/f is fine. No, I dont think c/r is good at all, because he won't VB hands like AQ unless he's going to call a c/r on such a draw heavy board which all missed on the turn. I'd like a c/r for value here with a strong hand since it would let him bluff and would also give you a chance for him to call a c/r with a strong ace.

[donkey]

c/f or c/r

c/c is pretty bad against a good player given the action

[Ansky]

meh i think c/r kinda looks FOS here.

[catcher193]

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meh i think c/r kinda looks FOS here.

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which is why its good for value in certain battles. Easy bet, consider calling.

[Bill King]

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i think once brian checks the flop behind you're probably okay,

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lol what? why? You think brian isnt check/raising a set a lot of the time here? Or slightly better Axss?

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i suppose he could check a set but probably not a slightly better Axss IMO

[Bill King]

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river c/r would definitely be a bluff not for value

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this is why i only c/r a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] river, as far as non hearts i like betting and folding.. checking and calling is pretty weak unless its a bluff catcher