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Old 11-01-2007, 04:17 PM
the machine the machine is offline
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Default Re: 3 barrell bluff

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i check call river i think. ace still leads river when we check but so does 68, 64. our hand has showdown value.

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I would NEVER consider calling the river. Given villans pre-flop calling range there are no conceivable draws. He basically has Ax - AT, my hand has no showdown value IMO and I'm not considering it when I make my play.

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then why bet the turn?????? or instead of asking a rethorical question i should say, dont bet the turn
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:32 PM
AshleyC AshleyC is offline
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Default Re: 3 barrell bluff

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i check call river i think. ace still leads river when we check but so does 68, 64. our hand has showdown value.

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I would NEVER consider calling the river. Given villans pre-flop calling range there are no conceivable draws. He basically has Ax - AT, my hand has no showdown value IMO and I'm not considering it when I make my play.

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then why bet the turn?????? or instead of asking a rethorical question i should say, dont bet the turn

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It's a semi-bluff and I think it makes him fold 99 A9/x etc here often enough. Plus, image, meta-game if he calls / hand showndown etc.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 3 barrell bluff

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i check call river i think. ace still leads river when we check but so does 68, 64. our hand has showdown value.

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I would NEVER consider calling the river. Given villans pre-flop calling range there are no conceivable draws. He basically has Ax - AT, my hand has no showdown value IMO and I'm not considering it when I make my play.

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then why bet the turn?????? or instead of asking a rethorical question i should say, dont bet the turn

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It's a semi-bluff and I think it makes him fold 99 A9/x etc here often enough. Plus, image, meta-game if he calls / hand showndown etc.

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dont overvalue meta in 100NL. its not a good semi bluff either if we only have between 0 and 9 outs. seems more like a pure bluff imo imo
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Wrong on Tatiana - I think

Ok, I may have been wrong about Tatiana. Here's a hand from last night, where she showed her hand after I folded. Funny thing is I didn't notice the chat until just now.

In short, she raised 8d2d from utg.

FullTiltPoker Game #4038334247: Table Matheson (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:13:42 ET - 2007/11/01
Seat 1: RidgyDidg87 ($103.15)
Seat 2: TatianaOkupnik ($360.15)
Seat 3: Scuba Chuck ($119.50)
Seat 4: Mr_R_Hand ($121.50)
Seat 5: malteb ($207.70)
Seat 6: pareshjain ($99)
pareshjain posts the small blind of $0.50
RidgyDidg87 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scuba Chuck [Js Jd]
TatianaOkupnik raises to $3.50
TatianaOkupnik: me too
Scuba Chuck raises to $14
Mr_R_Hand folds
malteb folds
pareshjain folds
RidgyDidg87 folds
TatianaOkupnik calls $10.50
*** FLOP *** [3d 7d Qc]
TatianaOkupnik checks
Scuba Chuck bets $23
TatianaOkupnik calls $23
*** TURN *** [3d 7d Qc] [9d]
TatianaOkupnik checks
Scuba Chuck checks
*** RIVER *** [3d 7d Qc 9d] [5h]
TatianaOkupnik bets $87
Scuba Chuck has 15 seconds left to act
Scuba Chuck has requested TIME
TatianaOkupnik: hohohoh i beat u
TatianaOkupnik: if u think i am better
Scuba Chuck folds
Uncalled bet of $87 returned to TatianaOkupnik
Scuba Chuck has returned
TatianaOkupnik shows [2d 8d] a flush, Nine high
TatianaOkupnik wins the pot ($72.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $75.50 | Rake $3
Board: [3d 7d Qc 9d 5h]
Seat 1: RidgyDidg87 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: TatianaOkupnik collected ($72.50)
Seat 3: Scuba Chuck folded on the River
Seat 4: Mr_R_Hand didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: malteb (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: pareshjain (small blind) folded before the Flop
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