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Old 10-26-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default were deep, we know it, i suck, ill show it

Villian $635 is unknown 23/17/4 hero covers and is about the same

Hero has 98ss in CO
PF: limp, hero raises to 9, villian in SB raises to 25, folds, hero calls

FLOP ($54): Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villian bets 45, Hero raises to 115, villian calls

TURN ($284): 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
villian checks, hero bets 215, villian calls

RIVER: ($704) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
villian shoves, $280 to call

Please dont mention pot odds either and try and figure out what villian has before telling me why I should call.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: were deep, we know it, i suck, ill show it

the only hand you lose to is AKs or AJs but you beat AA KK. and AT / TJs

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:31 PM
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the only hand you lose to is AKs or AJs

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The river paired the board, he loses to more than that
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: were deep, we know it, i suck, ill show it

He also loses to any set that filled up on the river. He's screwed but he's gotta call.




POT ODDS!! hahahhaha
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: were deep, we know it, i suck, ill show it

This spot kinda sucks.

I would bet more on the turn, probably overbet the pot. If the board pairs, or a flush hits, I don't want to have to make a decision like this. You also price in QQ+ and make your river decision much easier. If he is calling that $215 bet, why not go a bit more and really price him in. The last thing you want is to leave him with enough money to bluff you off the pot.

The river is a call, I think (especially since he is an aggressive player), without a better read. Once the pot gets this large, I think the chances that he takes advantage of a scare card greatly increases. But I still think he has QQ a lot.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:40 PM
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villain doesn't have a set.

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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the only hand you lose to is AKs or AJs

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The river paired the board, he loses to more than that

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TT is unlikely as is 77. QQ is definately in his range tho. So I wouldn't say a lot more, but a few hands.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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This spot kinda sucks.

I would bet more on the turn, probably overbet the pot. If the board pairs, or a flush hits, I don't want to have to make a decision like this. You also price in QQ+ and make your river decision much easier. If he is calling that $215 bet, why not go a bit more and really price him in. The last thing you want is to leave him with enough money to bluff you off the pot.

The river is a call, I think (especially since he is an aggressive player), without a better read. Once the pot gets this large, I think the chances that he takes advantage of a scare card greatly increases. But I still think he has QQ a lot.

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Our hand is ridiculously disguised, Villain basically has the nuts on the turn with QQ, he would never c/c on this board.

Don't be ridiculous.

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:43 PM
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Blah blah pot odds call.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:43 PM
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Villains range is AA-TT and AKs with air mixed in once in a while. I guess 66,77 are possible but is he really 3-betting those OOP?

QQ C/R's that turn I think. I think you see AA/KK as often as QQ or the nut flush. My opinion is he has AK spade or TT. How can you fold though?

Edit: also, pot the turn. He's not folding his range.
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