Point my Mistakes

Maxinho · #1 07-05-2007, 06:02 PM

I think I was a little weak, but weak in my stylle of play, I like to make things crazy a little bit, but I have a heart too and in this hand I almost throw my hand away can you guys belive? The UTG+1 is a Really Tight Passive/Passive, like 8/1/0.3 So I just think he had Aces or AK, well tell my mistakes or if it was good

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 folds, UTG+1 calls, 1 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (10.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (13.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 15.00 BB.

aK13 · #2 07-05-2007, 06:09 PM

Flop cap. Rest is standard.

kerowo · #3 07-05-2007, 06:10 PM

When passive players 3-bet you top pair is rarely any good. I wouldn't have capped and just called down and cried when he showed his stupid limped AA.

RemyXO · #4 07-05-2007, 06:59 PM

Over how many hands do you have these stats on him?
If he's really that tight, I'd be calling down from flop 3bet, kerowo QFT.

If he limped with AA, make a note on this fella. I suspect 77 though.

TarHeel100 · #5 07-05-2007, 07:03 PM

How many hands is that sample size for UTG+1? My stats are kinda standard TAG, but I have had long runs before where my stats look similar to UTG+1.

Personally, I'm probably just calling the flop 3-bet from the Mouse in UTG+1, but you were definitely correct in raising his initial flop bet. If SB cold called once, then he will do it twice, so the 2nd raise doesn't protect your hand and given Mouse's Passive postflop play, I don't necessarily think you have the equity to cap.

I'm calling down after the flop as well.

OrigamiSensei · #6 07-05-2007, 07:08 PM

It's not just that UTG+1 3-bet and he's super-tight, it's that SB came along for the ride calling two on the flop. At that point there's no way I'm feeling good enough about TP2K to cap it.

As other posters say just call down after that.

TarHeel100 · #7 07-05-2007, 08:31 PM

I've seen tons of players cold call on the flop in a raised pot with a low pair hoping to hit 2 pair or trips. He could easily have a hand like 8d7d or 5d4d. There's a strong chance he's just donating unless you have a specific read on him.

CrMenace · #8 07-05-2007, 08:36 PM

Call down from flop 3b.

What do you think SB was drawing to? Prolly Ax

Maxinho · #9 07-06-2007, 07:37 AM

I had 89 hands only, now that I saw
Before the action my image was of a crazy person, when I capped was to test him, but when he bets on the turn, I crap on my pants, this hand turns out fine for me, but either way, he make me learn my lesson.

anfernee · #10 07-06-2007, 08:50 AM

Going to grunch here...
Preflop standard. If UTG+1 is that TPP, I'd be making note of what he has limped & limped/called in previous hands, esp in EP...but I'm still raising.
Flop play...you could make a case of slowing down at 3-bet or capping based on your read of UTG+1. What do you put in UTG+1's 3bet range? a/j+, 44, 77? Can you see a TPP pushing that aggressively with a draw like 5/6s or even playing 5/6s preflop-very doubtful? Wtf is SB doing calling 2 cold twice?
I'd be putting SB on Ace/rag, 5/6, or 3/5. 3/5 or 5/6 seems likely due to the passive play on the flop.
Turn...standard....the K may not have helped SB and definitely didn't help you, but I wouldn't put it past UTG+1 limping a/k with all that action on the flop and especially if they're TPP. My read on the SB doesn't change..still think he's chasing or has A/rag.
River..standard. I'm still putting SB on the whiffed 3/5 or A/rag, if he had 5/6 he would probably lead here no? I don't think you're ahead very often against UTG+1 though...he gets aggro on the flop then proceeds to initiate the betting on turn/river. At best I think you're chopping..but doubtful. Still going to call down though for 13bb.