How long do I withhold tips? Dealer mistake costs me $1800. (long)

[Pot Odds RAC]

Yeah. Sorry the dealer cost you exactly nothing. No more so than misdealing an pocket aces before any action. I play at MCC often and while the dealers are not all wonderful, they are better than G-town and at least as good as CW.

I can't imagine that an experienced player would confuse the Derler costing him a pot instead of pure chance.

Get over it.

Tip the dealers - it is good karma.

[RR]

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I play around 30 hours per week, and probably win 2 pots an hour. That works out to 30 weeks of not tipping. Maybe 25 since sometimes I tip more than a dollar. As a professional poker player, EVERY mistake I make costs me money.

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You play this much and a very common mistake gets you upset? By chance do you have a second job and not keep actual records of if you win or lose?

[Willy]

Twelve minutes

[kailua]

Stiffing the dealer makes about as much sense as lying awake at night contemplating the huge sums you’ve lost by not winning those hands that were re-dealt prior to the flop because of a misdeal. If your room allowed rabbit hunting, you’d be a basket case.

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not so

[budblown]

This is not the player's fault, it isn't even the dealer's fault, it's the Casino's - and I for one am tired of it.
This all comes down to casino's being greedy bastards and not A.) paying dealers enough money to pay attention and B.) the casino's putting in unqualified and untrained dealers to save the money it costs of properly training a dealer.

In regards to not tipping for 36 weeks or whatever, that's just plain retarded. Why would you try and punish other dealer's for one dealer's mistake?

[jjshabado]

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As a professional poker player, EVERY mistake I make costs me money.

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not so

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I agree. Clearly OP doesn't know much about poker. I make mistakes and make money all the time (but I'm bad at poker). Every mistake costs you *theoretical* money, but since OP doesn't understand the concept of theoretical money (as evidenced by claiming the dealer cost him $1800) I don't think thats what he meant.

[Photoc]

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Every mistake costs you *theoretical* money,

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Around here we call this Sklansky bucks and they're almost like real moneyzzz!

As to the OP, he's definately not a "pro", unless you mean a pro in the sense that Sammy "take it out on the dealer" Farha is a pro too, then yes, it makes sense.

[kailua]

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As a professional poker player, EVERY mistake I make costs me money.

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not so

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I agree. Clearly OP doesn't know much about poker. I make mistakes and make money all the time (but I'm bad at poker). Every mistake costs you *theoretical* money, but since OP doesn't understand the concept of theoretical money (as evidenced by claiming the dealer cost him $1800) I don't think thats what he meant.

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Each mistake could *theoretically* cost him money.

Conversely, mistakes making money is what helps keep the games full.

[DrVanNostrin]

Here's a story about how a dealer actually cost me $200:

I make a flush on a board of 2d3c5d4sTd. The pot is $100 I'm OTB and shove for $200. Guy across the table thinks for a while and finally says "call" but he moves his cards forward slightly (there was another player left to act). Within a second the dealer has his cards in the muck. The guy explains that he had a 6, he said call, blah, blah, blah. He is pissed and starts going off on the dealer. Not only did I tip him, but I showed my the other player my flush.

As a poker professional you should understand that things like this happen. If you can't stand dealer errors try playing online.

[MicroBob]

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Here's a story about how a dealer actually cost me $200:

I make a flush on a board of 2d3c5d4sTd. The pot is $100 I'm OTB and shove for $200. Guy across the table thinks for a while and finally says "call" but he moves his cards forward slightly (there was another player left to act). Within a second the dealer has his cards in the muck. The guy explains that he had a 6, he said call, blah, blah, blah. He is pissed and starts going off on the dealer. Not only did I tip him, but I showed my the other player my flush.

As a poker professional you should understand that things like this happen. If you can't stand dealer errors try playing online.

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This one confuses me.
If the player said call then isn't it possible to retrieve the cards and hold him to that call?
I guess if he insta-mucked them and scooped up the board cards, etc it would be too late to do anything and perhaps that's what happened