25/50 HU hand 2

[Terkman]

Same opponent as last post. He hasn't slowplayed big hands on drawy boards that I have noticed so far. If we decide to continue with the hand, what is the best line? He hasn't raised me on the turn after checking behind flops at all (I think) Vs aggro opponents I always just 3bets push and feel good about it but this opponent is more on the passive side.

Game ID 1714403928 starting - 2007-11-11 16:46:39
** Talima Tontorina [Hold 'em] (25.00|50.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- FromSparta sitting in seat 1 with $4647.00 [Dealer]
- Terken89 sitting in seat 2 with $19807.00

FromSparta posted the small blind - $25.00
Terken89 posted the big blind - $50.00
** Dealing card to Terken89: Ace of Hearts, Jack of Spades
FromSparta raised - $175.00
Terken89 called - $175.00

** Dealing the flop: 10 of Spades, 8 of Clubs, Jack of Clubs
Terken89 checked
FromSparta checked

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Hearts
Terken89 bet - $350.00
FromSparta raised - $1400.00

[KexChoklad123]

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Same opponent as last post. He hasn't slowplayed big hands on drawy boards that I have noticed so far. If we decide to continue with the hand, what is the best line? He hasn't raised me on the turn after checking behind flops at all (I think) Vs aggro opponents I always just 3bets push and feel good about it but this opponent is more on the passive side.

Game ID 1714403928 starting - 2007-11-11 16:46:39
** Talima Tontorina [Hold 'em] (25.00|50.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- FromSparta sitting in seat 1 with $4647.00 [Dealer]
- Terken89 sitting in seat 2 with $19807.00

FromSparta posted the small blind - $25.00
Terken89 posted the big blind - $50.00
** Dealing card to Terken89: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
FromSparta raised - $175.00
Terken89 called - $175.00

** Dealing the flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Terken89 checked
FromSparta checked

** Dealing the turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Terken89 bet - $350.00
FromSparta raised - $1400.00

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[Terkman]

ty

[hardkAre]

Fold. Looks like 444/straight

[Stinger88]

I'd fold against said player, this is 444 a ton

[raptor517]

every time i call/call or stick more money in on the turn in spots like this i get mega ownd and they show up with 44 like everyone says. if turn brought a flush draw itd be diff, i dno. ima start using this line with complete [censored] to make ppl fold tptk. folding is prob fine. but )(*#%()@#% its annoying

[fsuplayer]

folderson.

[Terkman]

Results: I tanked some before pushing and he instafolded... Wasn't sure if this was the right play though.

[Terkman]

To all of you guys saying fold do you fold top two pairs also? What do you need to shove? Do you go call/call with any hands?

[irockhoess]

if he is passive, i think a raise on the turn really polarizes his range since he has position. All 1 pair hands and pairs + draws i think call from a passive person in position after checking this flop. This is pretty much only 444 Q9 or something else that kills you, or he has next to nothing. I dont know, i think a call might be better than a raise since if he had a draw or whatever, i dont think hed raise the turn, so there arent really too many cards id be afraid of on the river. i might go tricky and call turn and call any river, esp if its scary if i felt he was frustrated with me (you seem to be up a bit at the table). I think as a default i fold, mixing in call/call in every now and then. I think a raise by you on the turn just took away his chance to bluff again.