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Old 04-26-2007, 12:04 PM
jfletcher jfletcher is offline
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Default fold AA to scary board against push? (not interested in PF)

This is a $55 MTT, just before the first break.

Villain is very tight. Earlier he raised UTG, I min-reraised with AK, he pushed and I folded. He showed QQ.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed)

SB (t6090)
BB (t2420)
UTG (t4435)
UTG+1 (t2170)
Hero (t3555)
MP2 (t3346)
CO (t3995)
Button (t1009)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] .
UTG raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t500, 5 folds, UTG calls t200.

The minraise was because of the afforementioned hand. I wanted him to see that as weak again and go OTT. (The first minraise was to see what Mr. Rock was raising with UTG, and the 2nd was a setup after the first. Not interested in more opinions on that. Read on.)

Flop: (t1150) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t700, UTG calls t700.

Turn: (t2550) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t3235 (All-In), Hero ??.

EDIT: Note that i'm getting better than 2 to 1, cuz he has me outchipped. I have to call my remaining 2300 to win 5K already in there.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:07 PM
Sherman Sherman is offline
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

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Villain is very tight. Earlier he raised UTG, I min-reraised with AK, he pushed and I folded. He showed QQ.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed)

SB (t6090)
BB (t2420)
UTG (t4435)
UTG+1 (t2170)
Hero (t3555)
MP2 (t3346)
CO (t3995)
Button (t1009)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] .
UTG raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t500, 5 folds, UTG calls t200.

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Stop min-raising. And quit folding AK PF.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:10 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

A tight villain just raised UTG. He likes his hand. Stacks are fine for a push, just push.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

This is bad. Raise more preflop so you can shove the flop.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

Yeah well actually a smaller raise is fine too. A raise to like t850 could be alright as well. Bad players like to "see a flop".

Although this is a $50, I guess it isn't full of complete retards, and villain doesn't sound like an idiot. I would certainly shove AK here. So I shove AA too.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

I explained the reason for this minraise on the flop. It was a setup from the previous hand. I'm really interested in opinions on the turn.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

Min re raise sucks. Go to 900 pre flop AA or AK, push is too much for the blinds / stack sizes.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

Preflop raise to like 1k and shove the flop.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:30 PM
ThePershore ThePershore is offline
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

PS. bet more on flop.

PPS. turn isn't nice, best you can hope for is AdTx or KxQd, QxQd anything else you pretty much dead duck.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: fold AA to scary board against push?

It's a call. A lot of times this is a hand that crushes you, scared of draws, aiming to shut the hand down. A lot of other times, it's stuff like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] + pair, QQ, etc. etc. so, getting more than 2:1, it's a call.

FWIW, that you've explained your reasoning for pf doesn't make it suck any the less. He came over you last time because he had QQ and you made a bad fold. That doesn't mean he's coming OTT this time whatever his holding. He'll come OTT with QQ again but not a lot of his pf raising range whatever your history but he'll call a raise, maybe more likely to if he thinks you're annoyed about the last hand. If you make it 900, he's still coming OTT with QQ.
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