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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
I agree, it's pretty bad. It would be like Jerry Yang and Jamie Gold amassing all those chips at the main event then handing them to a Carlos Mortensen, JC Tran, for example.
The money isn't an excuse either since he could have gotten one of his high stakes friends to offer him insurance, based on chip count, players left. If he got that far, why not just finish it himself? |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
What if you are playing in an MTT and final table it, are playing, and then receive a phone call from your distraught mother who lives alone saying, "I think I'm having a heart attack... Please please come get me and bring me to a hospital" or something like that which is an emergency and demands you to leave your computer. Is it ok then to enlist a friend to finish the tourney for you? Can you sell them your seat for X amt of $ and let them finish? Can you tell them they get a 10% freeroll on whatever they end up earning you? Or would you really just let your chip stack get blinded out after all that hard work you put into making it that deep?
There are so many grey areas between what you may or may not consider to be morally acceptable for an online MTT. I think some sort of universally accepted guidelines need to be established so nobody inadvertently cheats based on someone else's integrity guidelines. |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
Call a friend to go pick up your mom and pay them a % of what you win ldo
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
If you think your Mother having a heart attack is a grey area then your soul is already lost my friend - If you were at the main event live would you ask her to hold on? terrible post.
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
Look, STEP ONE is for each site to sit down and present a set of draft guidelines for which they request feedback from the players. Then we have a bit of back and forth - then we get something finalised.
This is really simple, let the sites put down a set of rules; and a set of opinions on what they consider to be ethical behaviour by the players. If they do this and are open to feedback a giant leap forward will have been made. |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
[ QUOTE ]
Look, STEP ONE is for each site to sit down and present a set of draft guidelines for which they request feedback from the players. Then we have a bit of back and forth - then we get something finalised. This is really simple, let the sites put down a set of rules; and a set of opinions on what they consider to be ethical behaviour by the players. If they do this and are open to feedback a giant leap forward will have been made. [/ QUOTE ] I can't speak for the other sites, but people who claim that Pokerstars hasn't clearly defined what is allowed haven't read the TOS/tourney rules. And to the OP, yes you are allowed to hand off the tourney if you lose your internet connection. |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Look, STEP ONE is for each site to sit down and present a set of draft guidelines for which they request feedback from the players. Then we have a bit of back and forth - then we get something finalised. This is really simple, let the sites put down a set of rules; and a set of opinions on what they consider to be ethical behaviour by the players. If they do this and are open to feedback a giant leap forward will have been made. [/ QUOTE ] I can't speak for the other sites, but people who claim that Pokerstars hasn't clearly defined what is allowed haven't read the TOS/tourney rules. And to the OP, yes you are allowed to hand off the tourney if you lose your internet connection. [/ QUOTE ] if you know where it says this in stars toc mind posting it? i have no idea and im too lazy to read thru all of it anytime soon- although i should. |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
gg
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
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If you think your Mother having a heart attack is a grey area then your soul is already lost my friend - If you were at the main event live would you ask her to hold on? terrible post. [/ QUOTE ] I am saying it isn't close and you'd obv help your mom. The Q is then whether you would let yourself get blinded off, or turn your tourney over to someone else to finish? Reading this thread it sounds like a lot of people believe it would be immoral for me to call up one of my many friends who are super good at MTTs and say "how much $$ would u give me to get to finish this out and you keep whatever you get?" It seems like a lot of people believe the ONLY right thing to do would be to let yourself get blinded out, and to me that seems crazy. So then, if it becomes ok to let someone else finish your tourney in this situation, what type of situations are ok? What aren't? What if Person A is $25,000 in debt, is close to being evicted, and now finds himself deep in a multi. There are 10 people left, he's 4th in chips, and 1st place is $100,000, on down to 10th being like $3,000. Then, person A has some hotshot say to him, "hey dude, I'll ship you $30,000 right now if you let me finish this one out for you." [lets ignore the fact this is a crazy offer and hypothetically a hotshot great player would probably never make such an offer]. If you're person A and your life is hell and suddenly this guaranteed $30,000 can get you out of debt and give you enough money to prevent getting evicted anytime soon, this would be a tempting offer, right? But this would probably be considered immoral? But yet, it's a decision that can totally change someone's life for the better (much like leaving the tourney to help your mom), so then does it become ok, assuming we accept the mother-situation as being an ok one to sell your tourney seat? |
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Re: Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting
funkii is my favorite twins fan in this thread. lol at the eviction and heart attack hypotheticals.
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