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Old 07-06-2007, 02:49 PM
TheyCallMeDonk TheyCallMeDonk is offline
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Default JJ, I feel weak

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.73
Hero (BB): $25.00
BTN: $28.05

Reads: <font color="blue">First hand at the table. No stats</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BTN raises to $0.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $5.25</font>, Hero ?

Push fold call?
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

Push: nay.
Fold: aye.
Curse: aye.
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

no call?
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

Without reads I fold to the 4-bet here also.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

Call and spike your set. I think it's horrible to fold for another $2.75 with this sized pot and only three handed.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Call and spike your set. I think it's horrible to fold for another $2.75 with this sized pot and only three handed.

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It would be horrible to setmine here.
It is 2.25 more to call, and stacks are simply not deep enough.
You could call and pray villain has AK/TT and go broke on a flop with no overs.
That would not be horrible, but I would like a read before I try something like that.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

call for a set, you have the implied odds here. I'd likely muck w/o hitting a set.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:18 PM
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Call and spike your set. I think it's horrible to fold for another $2.75 with this sized pot and only three handed.

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This might be true. For some reason I was thinking this was 10NL.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

Setmining 101:

To BREAK EVEN you need to win back 11.7 times your preflop investment.
In this hand hero has to call 2.25 more.
2.25 x 11.7 = 26.3

Effective stacks 25$ (minus the rake).
There is no way you can call the 4bet to setmine and show a profit.

I'll repeat that for dramatic effect:
There is no way you can call the 4bet to setmine and show a profit.

(you CAN call and continue on a flop with no overs, but that is something else entirely - and FWIW I dont think that is a good idea either)
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: JJ, I feel weak

I called for another Jack, but noo,

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.73
Hero (BB): $25.00
BTN: $28.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BTN raises to $0.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $5.25</font>, Hero calls $2.25

Flop: ($10.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $5.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero is

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