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Old 11-02-2007, 11:06 PM
HatesLosing HatesLosing is offline
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Default Re: 55 UTG

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We're open shoving 55 UTG for 14BB's @ a 10handed table?

This seriously cant be good.

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Well my point was just mainly that live players are incredibly nitty. As I said I'm not sure if this is a fold or not, it's pretty close which I'm sure is why betgo posted it.

Antes are huge though, 10 handed there will be 2200 dead in the middle, equivalent to about 750/1500 blinds with no antes so really we have an effective BB of under 8.

In live tournaments when antes are so large and players are extra nitty, I lean towards shoving I think. Raising is bad because you're UTG and live players just love to call stupid [censored] which you're always flipping vs. and you will be OOP and have no way to play the flop. Shove for FE or fold.

As I said with big antes and live nits I'm leaning shove.

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Not that it makes it right just because other pros do it, but I know multiple pros that play almost entirely live who push here. I only know one (and he's very good) pro who plays live that will routinely fold here. In *my* mind, that just goes to show that it *is* close and not an "obvious fold" or "obvious shove".
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