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Old 11-25-2007, 05:28 AM
FlopYouDead FlopYouDead is offline
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Default Re: check/fold river with midpair, small pot

Against blinds in an unraised pot does UTG check this flop thru with a flush draw?

Does he call turn with ace high on KQ55 board in a tiny pot?

I think you're chopping with a dry queen the vast majority of the time.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Bruce D Bruce D is offline
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Default Re: check/fold river with midpair, small pot

Is betting this turn a mistake because we pay the same price to c/c the river and giving a free card doesn't really hurt us? ie the only card that really screws us up is possibly an A?

edit: Is JT folding for one bet in a small pot? I always have problems calling my oesd in tiny pots. I would think he should fold, but I have weak tight tendencies.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: check/fold river with midpair, small pot

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Betting the turn is terrible IMO

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Can't we get value from flush draws, JT, small pairs, and ace high?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: check/fold river with midpair, small pot

BB has a random hand minus the best hands he raise PF

UTG open limped. So his range is huge here as well

If any of them have a fd why didnt they bet the flop? Those need to be discounted

UTG might bet the flop with A high as well, so discount those.

If any of them picked up a straight draw they prolly bet when checked to.

It is highly doubtfull whether these opponenets put in a bet against a bet with a hand they wouldnt have bet for them selves

Now add all the times someone will take a stab at the pot with a hand that doesnt call a bet. This would be huge for you.

Betting marginal hands for value in tiny pots on dry boards where your opponenets both have HUGE ranges is bad poker

EDIT: Excuse me. Change that to:

Betting marginal hands for value in tiny pots on dry boards where your opponenets both have HUGE ranges of which the vast majority is going to fold to a bet is bad poker. E.g: Betting 22 on 433 flop 3-way is not bad as your average fish is calling any2 cards on that flop.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: check/fold river with midpair, small pot

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is there any merit to betting the flop? chances are no one hit it.

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yes. fwiw, i bet a ton of flops out of the blinds 2/3 handed.
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