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Old 06-22-2007, 09:49 AM
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what is "moran" ...

learn to spell. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw...

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Some people aren't observant at all. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


OP thanks for the thread.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

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Petriv's Holdem Odds Book

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Your problem is that you are reading crap like this. Read a 2+2 book and maybe you can understand my math, moran.

I recommend this one:



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Old 07-28-2007, 06:47 AM
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I'm sick and tired of this "OMG I GOT BAD BEAT, I HAD A POCKET PAIR AND ALL YOU HAD WAS OVERCARDS!"

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining morans.

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I took me actually several months to internalize OPs theorem, but finally I became a winning player!



PokerStars Game Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/23
Table 'Botein III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: fafnir86 ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($200 in chips)
fafnir86: posts small blind $1
Hero: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jc Jh]
fafnir86: raises $198 to $200 and is all-in
Hero said, "wowowowowowowowowowwo"
xflixx said, "LOL"
xflixx said, "LOOOOOOOOOL"
Hero said, "i has jacks"
DonPokerKing said, "no limit 1/2 ?WTF?"
xflixx said, "ICANT BELIEVE THIS"
Hero said, "jacksssssssssssssssssssssss"
xflixx said, "DONT DO IT"
Hero said, "omg"
xflixx said, "dont"
xflixx said, "dont"
Hero said, "fafnit, lower pp?"
xflixx said, "just fold and sit out"
DonPokerKing said, "this is pretty sick right here"
xflixx said, "we wont do this"
xflixx said, "this is sick"
Hero: folds
xflixx said, "i'm leaving"
Hero said, "call with jacks?"
fafnir86 collected $4 from pot
fafnir86: shows [4d 7h] (high card Seven)

I mean, he might have a lower PP, but if we do the math, chances are too big, that we are facing unpaired holecards here!
I'm so glad about my fold when I saw his random 47off.

FOLD YOUR PPs very frequently!! ty
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

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I'm sick and tired of this "OMG I GOT BAD BEAT, I HAD A POCKET PAIR AND ALL YOU HAD WAS OVERCARDS!"

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining morans.

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I took me actually several months to internalize OPs theorem, but finally I became a winning player!



PokerStars Game Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/23
Table 'Botein III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: fafnir86 ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($200 in chips)
fafnir86: posts small blind $1
Hero: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jc Jh]
fafnir86: raises $198 to $200 and is all-in
Hero said, "wowowowowowowowowowwo"
xflixx said, "LOL"
xflixx said, "LOOOOOOOOOL"
Hero said, "i has jacks"
DonPokerKing said, "no limit 1/2 ?WTF?"
xflixx said, "ICANT BELIEVE THIS"
Hero said, "jacksssssssssssssssssssssss"
xflixx said, "DONT DO IT"
Hero said, "omg"
xflixx said, "dont"
xflixx said, "dont"
Hero said, "fafnit, lower pp?"
xflixx said, "just fold and sit out"
DonPokerKing said, "this is pretty sick right here"
xflixx said, "we wont do this"
xflixx said, "this is sick"
Hero: folds
xflixx said, "i'm leaving"
Hero said, "call with jacks?"
fafnir86 collected $4 from pot
fafnir86: shows [4d 7h] (high card Seven)

I mean, he might have a lower PP, but if we do the math, chances are too big, that we are facing unpaired holecards here!
I'm so glad about my fold when I saw his random 47off.

FOLD YOUR PPs very frequently!! ty

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Almost had $200 in the pot as a 3:1 dog. Good fold.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:17 AM
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"So stop whining morans" lol
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:31 PM
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Almost had $200 in the pot as a 3:1 dog. Good fold.

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So it makes no difference when facing two random unpaired undercards?!

If so I SRSLY MOVE UP NOW!

ty OP!
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:35 PM
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Thread cliffnotes? Major rickroll or something?
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

Jman... you need to chill the f*ck out

learn how to express your views and strategic points w/out calling everybody a moran and telling people w/ less than 100 posts to STFU

there was a time when you didn't know jacksh*t about poker and only had 4 posts...don't forget where you came from you almighty Mod
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:09 AM
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when I was still new to 2+2, I used to think that all the posters were winning players. I have since realized how ignorant I was back then, this thread is a good reminder

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Yes, all the people who posted in this thread arguing that I was wrong are clearly losing players. Do you see why?

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this is the best post in the thread, DUCY?
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

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Jman... you need to chill the f*ck out

learn how to express your views and strategic points w/out calling everybody a moran and telling people w/ less than 100 posts to STFU

there was a time when you didn't know jacksh*t about poker and only had 4 posts...don't forget where you came from you almighty Mod

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You are clearly a losing player, moran.
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