.1/.2 Flop set on 3-flush board

vixticator · #1 07-04-2007, 07:40 PM

Only 5th or 6th hand from UTG here, but he has played every hand. I don't know how bad he is.

Am I right to call down after 3-bet on turn or do I cap? Also, raise or call river?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

CrMenace · #2 07-04-2007, 08:11 PM

GRUNCH

The only question to me is when to go into WA/WB mode. No question you should pop the flop. I think capping is probably correct, too. Once villain leads the turn, I'm pretty sure he has the flush or has 2P+... that puts me, anyway, into WA/AB mode.

I doubt I would ever fold, so once you pop the turn, the rest looks fine.

RemyXO · #3 07-04-2007, 08:42 PM

Standard, IMHO. The only question is whether to start calling down from the turn bet or raise it. With no reads, I would be more inclined to just call turn bet. Raising is very very close.

badplayer · #4 07-04-2007, 08:53 PM

Without a good read, I think I'd cap the turn, call the river IU.

I'm not even sure I'd put in the first raise on the turn. I'm just so weak-tight these days.

Shillx · #5 07-04-2007, 08:56 PM

Just when I thought we were making some progress...

that puts me, anyway, into WA/AB mode.

CrMenace · #6 07-04-2007, 09:02 PM

LOL, well I guess not. Hell, I don't know. Pop that SOB.

RemyXO · #7 07-04-2007, 09:14 PM

Oh my, haven't seen the exploding head in a while [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Shillx, u LOL'ed me good!

NIX · #8 07-04-2007, 10:17 PM

I play it the same. Also, if you're not going to cap the turn (and I don't), I don't like the idea of raising the river. Main reason being, if we are ahead on the turn, we should be capping for value then. Not on a river that didn't help us.

NIX · #9 07-04-2007, 10:19 PM

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GRUNCH

The only question to me is when to go into WA/WB mode. No question you should pop the flop. I think capping is probably correct, too. Once villain leads the turn, I'm pretty sure he has the flush or has 2P+... that puts me, anyway, into WA/AB mode.

I doubt I would ever fold, so once you pop the turn, the rest looks fine.

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As Shillix pointed out, if we're behind, it's most likely to a flopped flush and not QQ. We have 10 outs on the turn to improve to beat a flush. Ten outs does not equal way behind.

Shillx · #10 07-04-2007, 10:29 PM

I should say that I don't know what I'd do here. Slowing down might be the best play but it certianly isn't because we are WA/WB. We might be way ahead but any hand with a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in it isn't WB. And if we are behind we almost always have 10 outs.