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Old 02-02-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

I was speaking in general terms, not to your specific case. You have a good reason
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Old 02-02-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

Oh, I didn't think you were attacking me. Sorry that it sounded like I was.

I was just tossing out an example where you can be honest but still not disclose every detail. Lying on a resume is a horrible horrible idea on many levels, but I'm actually conscience that it's helpful to be building the Web business as a "cover" for the time I'm spending playing poker.

That said, if I don't build up a client base, I don't expect anyone to be impressed. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

I am in a position where I hire technical people (software).

I can honestly say, that your resume is what gets you a foot in the door - and if you have a gap in it thats greater than 6 months, your going in the reject pile.

Software moves fast - you need to keep your skills sharp and upto date.

I don't understand why people would want to quite a job to play 3/6 or 4/8 all day. The future is so uncertain, so why would you want to do something so drastic? play part time until your good enough to play at a higher limit and have proved yourself.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:18 PM
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That's nice in theory.

I quit a job I hated to do some ministry work, thinking I was applying for b-school so it wouldn't matter. When it turned out my application process went haywire, I was left scrambling for something productive to do with my life. My point is, not everyone who decides corporate America doesn't work for them decides this out of caprice or because they're hopelessly naive. For some of us, finding untraditional employment is a matter of survival.

The great news is, no one at the poker table asks me about work history before they give me money. No one places more emphasis on my ability to look busy than on my ability to get things done, as they did in that last cubicle job I left.

But poker isn't alone in that respect -- freelancing or any other type of entrepreneurship is very similar, which is why I've decided to cast my lot there for now.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

Yes, here in ac 1-2 nl max buy in is 300, some casinos have 200, 2-5nl max buy in is 500... know a few people that make a living playing just 1-2nl (one guy makes 10k a month).
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

and that's fine, if you know what you want. But we are talking about quitting your job to play poker - thus, you'd better have a damn good plan - and a plan B and even C.

Corprate work is not for everyone - I'd say the majority of people would rather do something else - but it puts the food on the table of the majority.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

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Yes, here in ac 1-2 nl max buy in is 300, some casinos have 200, 2-5nl max buy in is 500... know a few people that make a living playing just 1-2nl (one guy makes 10k a month).

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How many hours does he play?
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Low stake \"pros\" ???

So if he made $25/hour he's playing 100 hours a week. LOL, yeah that sounds about right
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:07 AM
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You inability to punctuate, spell, refrain from using caps lock, refrain from using paragrpah structure, and tell a good story is legendary.



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Glass houses, buddy.

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Get leveled.
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:50 PM
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Well, I don't know of many people that are small stakes pros that are not props, and I would guess that the rest are homeless, or living with their parents.

Interesting to note that the AVERAGE person in America makes about 30,000, but you have to consider that this does not illustrate the actual financial position of any certain area of the country. Surely, if I were to make 30,000 dollars in Cleveland, Ohio, where I come from, I would be able to buy a decent house for 24,000, eat well, and buy decent used car for 3,000.

The MEDIAN (which means that most of your money is bunched around this) income in Cleveland Ohio is somewhere about 20,000/yr. Conversely, the MEDIAN income in Los Angeles is about 65,000 a year, but this does not insure a reasonable living. Conversely, a one bedroom apartment in Hollywood will start at 1,200 a month, and a two bedroom will start around 1,500 a month. Even the shadier neighborhoods around downtown LA have fairly expensive apartments.

I think it's funny, that some of you would suggest going ahead a playing OL for a living if you are able to make a living at 5/10 (6/12 in LA), as you wouldn't be able to afford a dependable computer on this kind of income.

Another thing to note is that although you may be able to make about 3BB/100 in a casino, if you are multi-tabling OL, you would not be able to sustain this WR, thus reflecting somehing closer to 1BB/100. Of coarse since you have already spent all of you money on a nice computer, you will have a smaller bankroll, and attempting to play a smaller WR with higher SD will increase your RoR.

Oddly enough, the minimum wage in CA was just went up to (I think) 7.50/hr. Funny how people can actually live in this. These are jobs that are not only McDonalds, but think of the backround extras that work part-time (I once did it, when I had two roomates in a 1br), or even look at Craigslist. You will find jobs that require you to be tri-lingual, know Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, and only will start you off at $8.00/hr.

Many people, and I am guessing people on this site, have played poker for profit because their "real" job is dead-end, nor do they have any real "working" skills. I stand among this group. Yeah, life really sucks for me playing 40+ hours a week, but I have my freedom, and.... Oh yeah, I have given myself two raises in the past year, and I think there is a new one coming up soon.

I started up playing small stakes. I played the 2/5 and made about 20 per hour. I never had a job that paid that much, nor will I ever be able to find one.

I don't know what kind of backrounds you guys come from, but if you really think that all the people in this country live okay and have all the opportunities you have been granted, you need to get your head out of your o-hole.

The poor people of this county have no choice but to take a huge risk and dive head-first. If they have to start out playing 2/5 NL, or even 80NL, where you should make about 12 per hour, to rise out of the ashes, I wish them the best of luck.

Other options include prostitution and drug dealing. Whatever floats your boat.
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