77 turns a set and gets check raised by <1 AF

prodonkey · #1 10-02-2007, 08:22 PM

Villain is 25/3/.9 over 200 hands I don't see him doing this with anything I beat, AJ is probably his most likely holding, T's or Q's also possible, I guess there's an outside shot at KQ but I really don't think he'd do that with 2 pair there.

I don't have stove on this computer, is calling and folding river if I don't fill up bad? Should I just fold to the check raise? I know lots of people are going to say zomg! u have a set, shove! But vs this guy I really don't feel that is right.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($93)
SB ($16.50)
BB ($53.55)
UTG ($29.95)
MP ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, BB calls $2.75.

Turn: ($9.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB raises to $21

Leviathan101 · #2 10-02-2007, 09:15 PM

push he flips over two pair often enough I think.

I mean, he either has TT, AJ, J9, KQ, KT or TQ here. Vs this range you have good equity. You could just call and hope you fill, but you dont have the odds for that. Alternatively to shoving you could call here and call no matter what river brings. This might be ideal if you think he won't push the river, as you will lose less when you are beat, you may get more money out of worse hands that won't call a shove (maybe a random AK or something), and you can raise whenever you fill. However if he will raise with like KJ (which is sounds like he can't) then you let him in for free.

Generally... I think his bet is saying, I can beat AK here. Well it just so happens you beat most of hte range that beats AK as well.

I kinda like the call turn, call river line. If he checks to you, you gotta bet river for value.

Lego05 · #3 10-02-2007, 10:18 PM

He has two pair here a hell of a lot. I shove.

KT,KQ,QT,TT,AJ,J9

Hmmm less equity than I thought you'd have, but still a shove:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,728 games 0.005 secs 545,600 games/sec

Board: Kc Th Qd 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.430% 51.43% 00.00% 1403 0.00 { 7c7h }
Hand 1: 48.570% 48.57% 00.00% 1325 0.00 { TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, AJs, KhQh, KsQs, KdTd, KsTs, QcTc, QsTs, J9s, AJo, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KhQc, KhQs, KsQc, KsQh, KdTc, KdTs, KhTc, KhTd, KhTs, KsTc, KsTd, QcTd, QcTs, QhTc, QhTd, QhTs, QsTc, QsTd, J9o }

Include QQ which is possible:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,860 games 0.005 secs 572,000 games/sec

Board: Kc Th Qd 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.161% 49.16% 00.00% 1406 0.00 { 7c7h }
Hand 1: 50.839% 50.84% 00.00% 1454 0.00 { QcQh, QcQs, QhQs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, AJs, KhQh, KsQs, KdTd, KsTs, QcTc, QsTs, J9s, AJo, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KhQc, KhQs, KsQc, KsQh, KdTc, KdTs, KhTc, KhTd, KhTs, KsTc, KsTd, QcTd, QcTs, QhTc, QhTd, QhTs, QsTc, QsTd, J9o }

But he copuld also have something like KJ or something maybe.

corsakh · #4 10-02-2007, 11:32 PM

How do you manage to get into all this [censored] spots? Talent, man [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think he would raise KQ on the flop. But I'd never cbet this flop.