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Old 05-23-2007, 07:31 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Neilso this is a serious question I'm not trying to be snarky here. What do you think would change in the world if tomorrow it was proven 100% certain that the American government blew up the twin towers on 9/11? A mood shift? Something ethereal? A revolution? Nothing?

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The importance of 9/11 in relation to freedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7MFjsaS0k

Enjoy!
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:34 PM
Bill Haywood Bill Haywood is offline
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[16:03] Nielsio: Also, I would be interested in a detailed sequential mechanism
[16:10] Nielsio: NIST has not described any such sequential mechanism
[16:10] Nielsio: It does not go further than ' obal collapse ensued'
[16:13] Nielsio: Energy != sequential mechanism that takes into account all structural elements
[16:17] Borodog: You want the conspiracy more.
[16:18] Nielsio: What do you mean
[16:18] Nielsio: ' obal collapse ensued' is not a sufficient explanation
[16:21] Nielsio: Is ' obal collapse ensued' a sufficient explanation or not?
[16:32] Nielsio: So no sequential mechanism from you?
[16:38] Nielsio: Structural failure (which hasn't been proven btw) != sequential mechanism of disintegration/collapse

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Nielsio: you keep demanding this "sequential mechanism." What exactly do you mean?
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Ron Paul Ron Paul is offline
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Nice tuque.

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Old 05-23-2007, 07:39 PM
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Neilso this is a serious question I'm not trying to be snarky here. What do you think would change in the world if tomorrow it was proven 100% certain that the American government blew up the twin towers on 9/11? A mood shift? Something ethereal? A revolution? Nothing?

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The importance of 9/11 in relation to freedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7MFjsaS0k

Enjoy!

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I disagree with very little of that, if any (I didn't watch it all). We just disagree immensely when it comes to the analysis of what happened.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:43 PM
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Nielso, watch less 24. Speaking of you remind me of the retarded chick that slit her wrists in season 4.

If you're gonna read a pre-written thing that's on your computer screen try talking a little bit faster.

It took you 30 seconds to say, "people........like....9/11.....are.....underestimating...the....ummm....im portance....of......"
by that time i had no idea wtf you were saying.

Anyway too bad Jack Bauer wasn't around to stop the middle eastern terrorists funded by a mock corporation controlled by a CEO paid off by ranking members of the President's administration who were manipulated by the Wizard of Oz who told them to use a contingency plan of thermite explosives to bring down the towers just in case the initial plot was stopped by rogue government agents...or penguins who defy gravity from Antarctica.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:21 PM
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See...this is the kind of thing I'm talking about in my persistence of belief thread [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Nielso: I'm SURE you've already read the entire report, and probably just missed the section on the collapse mechanics. I understand...It's 1000's of pages of very technical material, and it probably took you a long time to read. By the time you got to the 4th volume, you may have been dozing off.

But here. You can probably start reading around page 300 or 310, and get what you want.

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I just read through Chapter 5 and it does not describe a sequential mechanism of the *collapses* (as I call for a number times in this thread).

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OMFG dude.

This report contains detailed time dependent finite element models of both tower collapses. It provides what you have been asking for, and you skim it in a few minutes and dismiss it out of hand? Page 179, pdf page 243, the bloody details are in the Appendix.

Let it go.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:28 PM
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Neilso this is a serious question I'm not trying to be snarky here. What do you think would change in the world if tomorrow it was proven 100% certain that the American government blew up the twin towers on 9/11? A mood shift? Something ethereal? A revolution? Nothing?

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The importance of 9/11 in relation to freedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7MFjsaS0k

Enjoy!

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Apologies. I can't run youtube videos on this PC could you give a quick explanation? Or a long one if that's what it requires.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:46 PM
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is it just me or is nelsio trying to ask questions that he knows nobody here is knowledgeable enough to answer with 100% certainty.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:48 PM
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is it just me or is nelsio trying to ask questions that he knows nobody here is knowledgeable enough to answer with 100% certainty.

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Yeah, thats the tactic, see the Dinosaurs on Mars thread. Its extremely unlikely the person you are talking to can answer EVERY question you have to extreme clarity, and even if they do, just ask more questions. Eventually they will run out of knowledge, and you can declare victory.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:57 PM
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And when you ask him a question he can't answer, he just ignores you.
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