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Old 06-21-2007, 08:59 AM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

Hi

What do you think about this hand? Pot odds are quite good, but is it worth it to invest here more chips? I tend to fold such hands, because usually they mean trouble, but what would you have done?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1200
UTG+1: t1600
MP1: t565
MP2: t3962
CO: t840
DonLigretto: t1523
SB: t2285
BB: t1525

Pre-flop: (8 players) DonLigretto is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, DonLigretto calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, SB calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t250)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t300, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t100</font>, BB folds, DonLigretto folds.
Uncalled bets: t100 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t300
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:07 AM
holy32 holy32 is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

Wow, why did you not raise pf ?? I make it 250 pf or maybe 300 to encourage a push from BB w/ Ax.

As played, you probably have 3xQ,3xA,4xK = 10 outs. Odds to improve on turn are 10x2 = 20%.
Odds offered by pot: 100-to-400 or 20%.

I'd rather not invest money when I'm behind (in sng's drawing sucks), although (asuming villain only has 1 pair) you are getting the correct price to look at the turn card.
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:08 AM
mnlgrind mnlgrind is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

fold looks good, I'm not going to be comfy when a spade hits on the turn or any rag, from the looks of sb he might be betting his draws or already has some piece of the flop, very draw heavy, i don't think an A or Q would give you the best hand.
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:15 AM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

Ok so you would raise pf and fold on the flop? I guess I've become too tight, I should raise with AQ in late pos. then
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:21 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

raisepreflopomg.

I don't mind going all in preflop, really. 15 BB is just my limit, I think.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

I like a push preflop
If we decide to open with t250, we must call a push, I think
I fold flop
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:24 AM
Evolve Evolve is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

I would call here. Its possible sb is taking a stab at the pot and you have a good number of outs to improve. If you miss, you can still get away from the hand relatively cheaply and still have some chips to play with. I dont think pushing PF is a good idea considering how many players are left and the blinds not being THAT high to where you need to panic. Granted you do want to win but i dont think you need to race right now. I think the best course of action would have been a raise PF but that is besides the point.

Call
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:36 AM
shbball7 shbball7 is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

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raisepreflopomg.

I don't mind going all in preflop, really.

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Old 06-21-2007, 10:42 AM
j_step j_step is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

where is the raise preflop. if you are not raising with AQ preflop from the button with no-one in front of u, what hands do you raise with? lol
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:55 AM
holy32 holy32 is offline
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Default Re: 5$: Good odds but nothing hit on the flop, should I call?

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raisepreflopomg.

I don't mind going all in preflop, really.

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Ugh, what's the point of raising the flop ? You think he's stabbing with nothing ? It's a $5, he's def calling with a J and probably also with a T. If you think that's all he's got then calling would be okay as you're getting the right price.

I just don't like investing alot of chips with a straight and a pair draw.
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