$3 Short against tons of limpers

[dafrk3in]

What do you guys think of these hands? I'm pretty low in both examples. Should I be waiting for spots where I have the opportunity to open, or should I try to take advantage of the dead money in the pot?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t965)
BB (t5145)
UTG (t2790)
MP (t3860)
Button (t2240)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t200, Button calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t940</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t740, Button calls t740.

Flop: (t2920) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t2920) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Button checks.

River: (t2920) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: t2920

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t1800)
Hero (t1160)
BB (t795)
UTG (t2275)
MP1 (t4135)
MP2 (t1915)
CO (t2920)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t200, MP2 calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1135</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t935, MP2 folds, Button folds.

Flop: (t2820) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2820) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2820) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2820

[DeuceSeven]

First one is bad pretty major -EV: a hand like Q7 is ok to open shove buy not with 2 limpers. Hand 2 is the same as hand 1.

[Little John]

These are awful push hands. I'd fold and wait for a better spot.

[RexWoo]

The thing is, you wnat to shove when no one has entered the pot to REDUCED the likehood of being call.

fold both hands.

[shbball7]

fold both plz

[dafrk3in]

thanks.

i just got the trial version of sngwiz, and i'm looking for the mistakes in a bunch of my tourneys. sure enough, these hands were both mistakes (i actually pushed both).

[j_step]

terrible shoves