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Old 09-21-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Friday Night Unknowns

Villian is a 1 tabling friday night unknown. Shown he's very very loose in past hands, one big loss against me.

I have no idea if this is going to be very clear cut for everyone.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 3/6
I open to $21 from UTG+1. Villian calls the bb.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He checkcalls $35.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
He checkcalls $95

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
He shoves $600 into ~$300 pot, i cover.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:08 PM
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fold fast
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Friday Night Unknowns

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Old 09-21-2007, 06:24 PM
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:34 PM
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The flop is so dry. Turbomuck!
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:04 PM
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Friday Night Unknowns

I didn't know if everyone would have said clear call or clear fold.

I'm still not sure. I just don't usually see bad players try to get so much value from QJ i feel like they always go for the sure bet and try to milk it. Although, he could be down a large amount and see this as his golden chance to get it all back.

On the other side, he could be down small and really want this pot. Again, i don't really see bad players bluffing 2x, but this would be a situation that would need a larger than pot sized bluff to achieve anything.

Hand wise there really aren't many bluff hands. I think it's unlikely he'd bluff with 76 or 56 most bad players are just praying it's good. But there's still 89 which was a double gutter or 9Ts. Which it could very well be.

In the end it just comes down to which i think is more likely him betting 600 for value with QJ or bluffing 600 with 89o. In hindsight i'd lean to 89.

In the hand i folded, he had A6o.
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